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Lebron's biggest failure --- he hasn't played on an historically great team
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:43 pm
If There is any flaw Lebron still has on his resume, its that he has yet to have played on a historically elite/great team.
Just think of the top 10-12 greatest players off all times, every guy in the list has played on an historically great or memorable team.
Now none of these guys have anything remotely close to a 3-1 finals deficit comeback, so maybe that balances it out but i would like to see him on one more team that wins 62-67 games.
MJ- 96/97/93 Bulls
Russell- 61 Celtics .. I'm writing all the other ones
Kareem - 71 Bucks, 85/87 Lakers
Lebron -- ?? 13 Heat ??
Wilt- 67 Sixers, 72 Lakers
Magic - 85/87 Lakers
Bird - 86 Celtics
Duncan - 14 Spurs
Shaq - 01 Lakers
Kobe - 01 Lakers
West - 72 Lakers
Hakeem -- ??
Moses - 83 Sixers
Dr J- 83 Sixers
Just think of the top 10-12 greatest players off all times, every guy in the list has played on an historically great or memorable team.
Now none of these guys have anything remotely close to a 3-1 finals deficit comeback, so maybe that balances it out but i would like to see him on one more team that wins 62-67 games.
MJ- 96/97/93 Bulls
Russell- 61 Celtics .. I'm writing all the other ones
Kareem - 71 Bucks, 85/87 Lakers
Lebron -- ?? 13 Heat ??
Wilt- 67 Sixers, 72 Lakers
Magic - 85/87 Lakers
Bird - 86 Celtics
Duncan - 14 Spurs
Shaq - 01 Lakers
Kobe - 01 Lakers
West - 72 Lakers
Hakeem -- ??
Moses - 83 Sixers
Dr J- 83 Sixers
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 10:43 pm
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:45 pm to StrongSafety
Why in the world would the 66 win Heat team not be every bit on the level of all but a couple of those teams?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:47 pm to StrongSafety
Wut
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:49 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
MJ- 96/97/93 Bulls
Russell- 61 Celtics .. I'm writing all the other ones
Kareem - 71 Bucks, 85/87 Lakers
Lebron -- ?? 13 Heat ??
Wilt- 67 Sixers, 72 Lakers
Magic - 85/87 Lakers
Bird - 86 Celtics
Duncan - 14 Spurs
Shaq - 01 Lakers
Kobe - 01 Lakers
West - 72 Lakers
Hakeem -- ??
Moses - 83 Sixers
Dr J- 83 Sixers
DIRK - 11 MAVS
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:54 pm to StrongSafety
Duncan - 14 Spurs
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:57 pm to shel311
Dirks 07/08 team
Won 67 and it was an empty 67
Won 67 and it was an empty 67
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:00 pm to StrongSafety
quote:ok, this is relevant, why?
Dirks 07/08 team
Won 67 and it was an empty 67
Why would the 14 Spurs go up on the list but not the 66 win Heat team?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:03 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
1. Bird - 86 Celtics
2. Magic - 87 Lakers
GOATS
MJ's late 90's team? Great record, but please.
Look at the expansion and bullshite competition.
Magic and Larry were going at each other with Barkley and Jordan and Dr. J. and Kareem and Ewing and Hakeem and Dominique and it seemed like every team had 3 All-Stars.
'86-'87 was like fresh-squeezed 100% juice OJ.
Late 90's was like 5% real juice Sunny Delight.
'87 Lakers could have beaten the '86 Celtics but we will never know.
'86 vs. '86 would have been the most epic battle of all-time...but the freakin' Lakers choked to the Rockets.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:16 pm to StrongSafety
Most of these teams won multiple titles, so there not many more to compare them to
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:17 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
If There is any flaw Lebron still has on his resume, its that he has yet to have played on a historically elite/great team.
I agree 100%, that said.
The best of the best Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Jordan, Hakeem, didn't get to chose their teams. They made the teams their historically great, on the court with the hand they were dealt.
Lebron literally manufactured the Big 3 in Miami to get a ring, then went back to a team that had=
-between '11-'14 had the #1 overall pick 3 times
-between '11-'14 had 5 picks in the top 5.
And, by you own statement he still couldn't manufacture a historically great team.
Could you imagine Bird, Magic, or Jordan coming back from baseball going to a team that had the #1 overall pick 3 out of the previous 5 drafts.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:19 pm to StrongSafety
The 12/13 Heat were one of the greatest teams of all time. I saw them in person against the Hornets and they were unbelievable to watch live.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:19 pm to Dubosed
quote:
Duncan - 14 Spurs
The 2014 Spurs were a truly great team
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:44 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
Lebron's biggest failure --- he hasn't played on an historically great team
Wait...but according to all of the LeBron haters/MJ GOAT proclaimers, the biggest knock against LeBron is that all of his teams since he joined the Heat have been STACKED with SUPERSTARS??
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:51 pm to StrongSafety
Look the OP is right.
No one is going to remember shite about the Cavs team unless they win a few...its only going to remember take my talents to South Beach team which will always leave a bitter taste.
No one is going to remember shite about the Cavs team unless they win a few...its only going to remember take my talents to South Beach team which will always leave a bitter taste.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:55 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
No one is going to remember shite about the Cavs team unless they win a few
I guess beating a 73 win team in the Finals isn't good enough for LeBron.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:57 pm to VADawg
That's why I said perhaps his trump card for this argument is his 3-1 comeback.
His Heatles teams will be remembered collectively but he still doesn't have that one "memorable team."
Will we look back at the 13 Heat like we look at the 15/16 Warriors, 87 Lakers, or 86 Celtics?
His Heatles teams will be remembered collectively but he still doesn't have that one "memorable team."
Will we look back at the 13 Heat like we look at the 15/16 Warriors, 87 Lakers, or 86 Celtics?
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:28 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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No one is going to remember shite about the Cavs team unless they win a few
You all act as if he is playing with bums. Jesus those Miami teams were super teams. Talked about daily year around. Wade/Bosh/Bron in primes. I remember just a couple years ago people talking about Kevin Love as a top 10 player now he's bum? shite. Kyrie Irving and Love are great players and Lebron knew what he was doing when he came back home.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 12:30 am
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:42 am to apfour21
13-14 Spurs and 14-15 Warriors are better than the 2012-2013 Heat.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:42 am to shel311
Because the 14 Spurs ANNIHILATED everyone in the playoffs.
Theres no comparison
Theres no comparison
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:43 am to Ghazi
Heat needed 7 games against a 49-32 Indiana team.
And needed a fluky arse shot to win the title.
And needed a fluky arse shot to win the title.
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