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re: Lebron v. Kobe - How does anyone still pick Kobe?

Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:39 am to
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:39 am to
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There are plenty of players better than Kobe. He was great but he was also a product of great teams.


Saying he's a product of great teams makes it sound like he was only great BECAUSE of who he played for, which is just idiotic. It's not like you could replace Kobe with some other all star and the Lakers still win all five titles. The 00 team doesn't get past Portland without Kobe, the 02 team doesn't get past Sacramento, the 09 team doesn't get past Denver, and the 2010 team doesn't get past Boston. Shaq was the better player in the 00-02 stretch, but he doesn't win those titles without Kobe, and Kobe doesn't win them without him.

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Bird
Magic
Jordan
LeBron
Shaq
Kareem


Like these guys weren't on great teams. Great teams in a league with less parity I might add. Lebron is truly the only guy on that list that has gone to the NBA finals with a bad team.

Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:43 am to
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disagree on these point

i mean lebron already his his peak 2 years ago so we can compare to kobe's peak. lebron wins and there is no question to me


Which is why I said the totality. I clearly referenced Lebron's peak as the second best ever to MJ. I don't think you can argue that Lebron has faced tougher competition than Kobe. During his time in the league, the East competition has been bad outside of Detroit and Boston, and Lebron's peak has been after those team's best days.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422412 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:15 am to
oh i fully admit those blazer and kings teams were amazing. but the NBA in general sucked
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51566 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:39 am to
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the lakers early 00s run was in the dark ages of the NBA. the kings and blazers were amazing, but the NBA sucked back then


WTF?? It had the Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, KIngs, Blazers, Pacers etc. The NBA teams of this year are freaking weak. I've been saying for a while that this warriors team is vastly overrated, them winning 67 games is because the teams aren't very strong this year IMHO. Bash away.
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