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Lebron v. Kobe - How does anyone still pick Kobe?

Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:56 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:56 am
this is not a thread to discuss Michael Jordan (in comparison to either player)

reading the "top 15 of all time" thread i saw a few people rank kobe over lebrno.

i can't believe anybody except the biggest kobe dickriders could justify this. what do you use to justify this ranking?

if you use team stats (like titles), do you think lebron would have somehow been worse for teh lakers if he had the best frontcourt in the NBA?
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 7:59 am
Posted by Commandeaux
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:57 am to
count to five
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:00 am to
quote:

count to five

team stat and kobe had the superior team

hell kobe had teh best team in the NBA twice and lost in the finals...once to a team without a superstar. i'm not holding that against kobe
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:01 am to
Robert Horry. Bill Russell.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:01 am to
Dat stare doe

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:05 am to
Because of "killer instinct" and "clutchness" and all the other lazy cliches.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:06 am to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:07 am to
inb4unknownknight
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:07 am to
Kobe was a far better closer, and closing counts for a lot. If I were an owner, I'd prefer Lebron in his prime. If I want to win a championship, for now I'd want Kobe in his prime. That can still change.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:07 am to
Mamba no joke.

But yeah, LeBron is better.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:07 am to
It's pretty simple. I think Kobe is the second greatest player in the history of the game behind only MJ.

His career accomplishments, both team and individual, help back this up.. The longevity of his career played at an elite level.. The intangibles. Kobe isn't going to light up a stat sheet like LeBron, but he just has IT. He is the most determined, hardest working player of all time.

He's a fricking winner.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Kobe was a far better closer,

define "closer", please
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Kobe isn't going to light up a stat sheet like LeBron, but he just has IT.

"it", as in alienating his superior teammate in a power struggle, keeping the team from a title for years?

or "it" as in throwing a pity party when his team wasn't super elite and demanding a trade?

quote:

He's a fricking winner.

as long as his team is elite around him
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:10 am to
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How does anyone still pick Kobe


that is what happens when ppl who look like this attempt to give sport opinions

Posted by c on z
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:10 am to
quote:

reading the "top 15 of all time" thread i saw a few people rank kobe over lebrno.

You sure it wasn't just theunknownknight, and some other resident laker fan like AlexLSU?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:11 am to
Do people forget how difficult it was for opposing teams to handle the Odom/Bynum/Gasol rotations?
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:11 am to
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:12 am to
"IT" as in frick you, I'm going to take over this game and win. IT as in losing is not a fricking option. IT as in I'm not going to start a super best friends club because I can't win.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:13 am to
quote:

hell kobe had teh best team in the NBA twice and lost in the finals...once to a team without a superstar. i'm not holding that against kobe


Were they really the best in 2008? Sounds debatable.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:13 am to
That's not me. But what a great, relevant point that helped further the discussion.
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