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re: Kendall Wright and Justin Hunter show disappointment after the Mariota selection

Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:23 am to
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:23 am to
This board goes full retard on Mariota. Akili Smith was dumb and short.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:24 am to
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Well duh. The football people know Mariota's not really that good. He shouldn't have even been a first rounder if we're being honest about his skill set and background.


what are basing this off of besides your armchair GM abilities?

The "football people" thought he was good enough to be drafted 2nd overall and by all accounts he was highly coveted and would not have slipped past the second pick even if Tennessee didn't take him.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28371 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:26 am to
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Mett will never do any of those.

Well it's impossible for Mett to win ROY.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94951 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:28 am to
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You need a good QB to win in the NFL and Mettenberger is awful


107/179 60%

1,412 yards

7.89 avg

8tds

7int

83.4 rating. Go compare that to other rookie seasons for pocket passers like Brady, Manning, Luck. Actually, you may be so retarded you cant search the internet, so let me do it for you

Manning 326/575 57% 3,739 yds 6.5 avg 26 tds 28 ints 71.2 rating

Brady 264/413 63% 2,843 yds 6.9 avg 18 tds 12 ints 86.5 rating

Luck 339/627 54.1% 4,374 yds 7.0 avg 23 tds 18 int 76.5 rating

Mett 107/179 60% 1,412 yds 7.9 avg 8tds 7 int 83.4 rating



So now you learned you were a dumbass today
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 9:29 am
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:30 am to
You are a fricking idiot. Mariota was graded 1st round his sophmore year.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 9:32 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:31 am to
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what are basing this off of besides your armchair GM abilities? The "football people" thought he was good enough to be drafted 2nd overall and by all accounts he was highly coveted and would not have slipped past the second pick even if Tennessee didn't take him.


Basing it off of the fact that he never had to make more than a couple of throws where the receiver wasn't 10 yards open.

Also basing it off of the fact that his completion percentage drops to ~55% when throwing to his second read.

Also basing it off of the fact that Oregon QBs have sucked arse in the NFL.

I think Tennessee ownership wanted Mariota (not coaching) because he's not really the type of QB that Whisenhunt prefers.

There have been plenty of examples of players picked in the top 5 that have been train wrecks. Then people after the fact said they should've known better because all of the red flags were there. This will be one of those cases.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 9:33 am
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:33 am to
I like Mariota and don't hate the pick, but Mett seems like a better fit for that offense. He reminds me of Alex Smith where you know he can be a solid starter down the road, but is he a guy you want at #2?
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 9:34 am
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:33 am to
Mariota had one of the best down field throw percentages in cfb. Can you back any of this drivel up?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94951 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:34 am to
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Mariota had one of the best down field throw percentages in cfb. Can you back any of this drivel up?
What concerns me is is percentage in the pocket sucked, and well as his percentage to his second target. Which are two huge things in the NFL
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:36 am to
Where are you getting these stats?
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:37 am to
This thread shows its an LSU site
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:37 am to
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So now you learned you were a dumbass today


lol tough guy here. Clearly the Titans think Mett sucks or they wouldn't have drafted him second overall and turned down a VERY lucrative trade offer(s) in doing so.

If the guy went to Ole Miss you'd be in here crowing about how he sucks and what a tool he is for sporting stupid goatees.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 9:40 am
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60261 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:38 am to
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Mariota had one of the best down field throw percentages in cfb. Can you back any of this drivel up?



With no one close to his receivers. That won't be the case in the NFL. We'll see how it turns out, but he's set up to fail with that OL.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:41 am to
Let me get this straight...he threw 55 percent to wr down field that were covered while in the pocket? Oregon led the country with 38 frosh TDs with never starting the same 5 OL once. Mariota was our savior.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:44 am to
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With no one close to his receivers


This seems like nothing more than a convenient talking point for you that has no truth to it. It's not like Oregon is cranking out top notch receivers every year.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:50 am to
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Let me get this straight...he threw 55 percent to wr down field that were covered while in the pocket? Oregon led the country with 38 frosh TDs with never starting the same 5 OL once. Mariota was our savior.


I said ~55% when throwing to his second read. That was reported in an ESPN Sports Science pre-draft segment. Seeing as every game he'll have to make several checkdowns that's pretty significant. There are no Washington State defenses in the NFL.

Winston/Mariota Sports science

And that's a college 55%. It could be worse in the NFL. But hey you're a fanboy, you'll probably just say ESPN's lying.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 9:55 am
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:04 am to
I have seen Mariota for 3 years. We had more injuries to our OL last than any other year in 3 decades. We had an all new wr core and a true frosh Rb. Mariota didn't set his feet after the 1st read because it was Run, Mariota, Run. He masked a ton of deficiencies.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 10:06 am
Posted by tigerNation09
New Orleans PELICANS Fan
Member since Nov 2008
12977 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:06 am to
Mariota can run all he wants but this is nfl speed as well, I don't think it'll be easy out running the defense then finding a guy 30 yard down the field wide open every time.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:09 am to
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Clearly the Titans think Mett sucks



They think he sucks? Really?

Maybe a bit strong worded there?


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If the guy went to Ole Miss you'd be in here crowing about how he sucks and what a tool he is for sporting stupid goatees.



I'd say he has a great arm and no mobility and I'd say the Titans are fricking retarded for drafting a QB #2 that has this many question marks when they have so many other areas of need they could have filled with one trade down of that pick.

And Bisonduck, please throw all Oregon QB stats out the fricking window. That system is very unique and effective in college, but is NOTHING like a pro system. Oregon stats are inflated every year because how great the system is. He didn't have a bunch of anticipation throws, extremely tight windows and rarely ever had to check down to #3 and #4 receivers.

Mariota is a big, strong, smart, athletic, QB that has average arm strength and no experience in a pro system. He is a good pick for a team that has everything in place besides QB. He is a TERRIBLE pick for a team that has a decent QB and a high school offensive line.

ETA:

I don't htink Mett is Tom Brady. But he is a decent QB who can make all the throws and had a solid rookie campaign. AND HE'S CHEAP. The Titans have too many damn holes to blow a #2 pick on a QB with question marks.

This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 10:11 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:10 am to
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I have seen Mariota for 3 years. We had more injuries to our OL last than any other year in 3 decades. We had an all new wr core and a true frosh Rb. Mariota didn't set his feet after the 1st read because it was Run, Mariota, Run. He masked a ton of deficiencies.



Deficiencies the Titans also have, but he can't run away from them in the pros.
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