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re: Kaepernick: How can I celebrate Independence Day when my ancestors were stripped of theirs
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:09 am to StrongSafety
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:09 am to StrongSafety
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How is he a grunt?
Just a basic employee
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:10 am to SG_Geaux
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just a black man that feels guilty for being raised by white people and not having to struggle.
Sounds like StrongSafety... if, you know, he was actually black.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:12 am to StrongSafety
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Getting disproportionally gun down by your service men and women and being systematically discriminated against IS NOT ridiculous
But single mothers, violent crimes, poverty, etc. are all off limits to discuss via statistics, right? That's why you people are fricking clowns.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:13 am to Hoops
I miss the 1990s when none of this stuff was an issue anymore. We had gotten past it. Now people are trying to bring it back up. All these SJWs are worse than a nagging girlfriend, my god
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:13 am to Bench McElroy
1) Everything is ALWAYS about them. Wreaks of insecurity
2) While heinous, slavery worked out as a MASSIVE benefit to the blacks in American today. Otherwise Kaep is likely out in the Congo somewhere chucking spears at his next meal.
2) While heinous, slavery worked out as a MASSIVE benefit to the blacks in American today. Otherwise Kaep is likely out in the Congo somewhere chucking spears at his next meal.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:26 am to dcrews
quote:or they would have immigrated here naturally like every other race has. I can't believe you actually said that
While heinous, slavery worked out as a MASSIVE benefit to the blacks in American today. Otherwise Kaep is likely out in the Congo somewhere chucking spears at his next meal.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:28 am to StrongSafety
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A man can't trace his roots?
I didn't say he couldn't.
But if his take that he can't celebrate July 4th because of slavery, just pointing out that he can honor those who gave their lives on July 4th, so that blacks in this country could be free.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:29 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:Pretty sure he pledged the $1mil before that. But AGAIN, you're assuming the worst. And AGAIN, that says something about YOU.
And how much of that conveniently came about after he was called out for his stances but little to no community work?
quote:Ok. It's pretty obvious that no matter what or how much good he does, you're going to point to the next person who does even more good and yell, "WHY CANT HE BE THAT GOOD" ...which is just silly and proves my point for me. You've already done that once, so i have every reason to believe you'll continue to do it no matter how much good he does.
It really doesn't.
quote:So when you give back, it means something. But when Kaep gives back, he's not doing it for the same reasons as you? You sound miserable.
I've worked with kids in high-poverty, high-crime areas in the inner city here for almost a decade now. Half of that time spent in residential facilities for youth who are runaways, kids who have been abused, etc. I feel pretty good about what I give back to my community. Sorry that I don't have millions to donate to some random charities though.
quote:Again, proving my point with shitty logic.
Like I said, get back with me when he's on Warrick Dunn's level
quote:Again, proving my point. You have zero basis for the things you're saying, you are CHOOSING to believe the worst in his intentions, which again, says something about you, not him.
Anybody with his fortune can throw a little money at a charity cause because he gets called out
quote:This is me getting back to you. We'll see if you get back to me and concede you were wrong, or if you'll continue to make things up and assume he's doing this for all the wrong intentions.
Get back to me when I actually see him walking the streets in black communities and dealing with the issues hands on.
Let's see you downplay this, I'm sure you will.
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:31 am to DrSteveBrule
quote:Wait, what? Racism wasn't an issue in the 1990s?
I miss the 1990s when none of this stuff was an issue anymore
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:31 am to Hoops
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But single mothers, violent crimes, poverty, etc. are all off limits to discuss via statistics, right? That's why you people are fricking clowns.
No they aren't-- those are all by products of systematic discrimination.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:32 am to DrSteveBrule
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miss the 1990s when none of this stuff was an issue anymore. We had gotten past it. Now people are trying to bring it back up. All these SJWs are worse than a nagging girlfriend, my god
Rodney King? OJ? 3 strike rule? You're just seeing the by product of "silence."
Black folks have been talking about this for as long as they have had freedom. Instanteous media outlets just didn't exist then
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:35 am to dcrews
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1) Everything is ALWAYS about them. Wreaks of insecurity
Insecurity? Seriously? How can you say that in light of their history?
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2) While heinous, slavery worked out as a MASSIVE benefit to the blacks in American today
The benefit would have been ending slavery, paying them what they were owed (which one of them ever got), ending systematic discrimination, and integrating them as full citizens into our society. We only did 2 of those things.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:36 am to TigerintheNO
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But if his take that he can't celebrate July 4th because of slavery, just pointing out that he can honor those who gave their lives on July 4th, so that blacks in this country could be free.
Here's a tip : a lot of black folks don't give a damn about the 4th. Sad, but true. I wish it weren't that way. There ancestor were still in chains. Especially not with how they were treated right after risking their lives to fight for others freedoms.
Juneteenth means more to them than anything. Juneteeth should be a national holiday.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:41 am to StrongSafety
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Juneteenth means more to them than anything. Juneteeth should be a national holiday.
I honestly thought that was just a Texas thing.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:47 am to TigerintheNO
quote:I've never heard of that until this thread and reading it a few minutes ago...and I've lived in Texas for 2 years now.
I honestly thought that was just a Texas thing.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:53 am to shel311
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So when you give back, it means something. But when Kaep gives back, he's not doing it for the same reasons as you? You sound miserable.
I'm pretty content actually.
Miserable sounds like the guy whose arse is absolutely chapped that Kaep's strawman stance against true racial injustice is just that.
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You have zero basis for the things you're saying, you are CHOOSING to believe the worst in his intentions, which again, says something about you, not him.
Where was all this philanthropy and concern for the black communities in this country when he wasn't riding the pine or begging for a job in the NFL? He didn't even open his mouth until his job was in jeopardy and was trying to remain relevant.
Most people can see through the bullshite. I feel sorry for you that you can't.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:58 am to StrongSafety
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But single mothers, violent crimes, poverty
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No they aren't-- those are all by products of systematic discrimination.
Are they? I think "systemic discrimination" is a big cop out, it's looking for blame rather than actually trying to fix things. Now does discrimination systematic or otherwise still exist? Of course, but when we had legal, overt discrimination under Jim Crow, we did not have a lot of those problems so to simply say say systemic discrimination is why there is more crime in black neighborhoods is just excuse making.
You can not reduce police violence unless you address the actual root causes of crime and that starts by correctly identifying them. I can not claim to have all the answers but 1 good start imo would be endng the Drug War, which I do not think was mentioned by BLM (if they have I apologize) and other wise reducing petty laws and regulations that give police reasons to harass people. For example Eric Garner I think was the guy in Staten Island (I can't breathe) was arrested multiple times for selling bootleg cigarettes, there's demand for that because NYC has super high cigarette taxes. You can not have the all powerful state that most AA vote for with having a massive enforcement mechanism.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 12:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:Well, that makes no sense given my posts in here, but you chose not to read them and assume the negative, or the thing that makes you look like you have point when you actually don't. You've done that probably 5 times in your last 3 posts, it's a really bad look.
Miserable sounds like the guy whose arse is absolutely chapped that Kaep's strawman stance against true racial injustice is just that.
quote:I see the good in people. You make a judgment based on a dude taking a knee and assuming everything about him is bad and wrong. Congrats, I'm pretty good on my end, the not so miserable side.
Most people can see through the bull shite. I feel sorry for you that you can't.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 12:10 pm to shel311
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Rodney King? OJ? 3 strike rule? You're just seeing the by product of "silence."
Those are 3 different issues, but 3 strikes was a product of skyrocketing crime.
What a lot of people forget/are too young to remember is that in the 80'and 90's a lot of people in the black community where screaming for something to be done since crime, particularly homicide was disproportionately affecting them. At the time the lack of attention and action was deemed racism. John Singleton references it in Boyz n the Hood.
A lot of SJW types like to point out penalties for crack are much harsher than for powered cocaine and claim its racism because blacks are more likely to sell and use crack and "rich whites" more likely to use powered coke. What they don't realize is it was black legislators that wanted the tougher penalties on crack and the penalties for crack are basically the same as for crystal meth which is also more used by whites.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:25 pm to AlonsoWDC
quote:In the USA? Where?
Slavery still exists here, for that matter.
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