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re: Kaepernick: How can I celebrate Independence Day when my ancestors were stripped of theirs
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:12 am to shel311
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:12 am to shel311
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Like him or not, He's done a lot in the way of putting his money where his mouth is, fwiw.
Has he? Such as?
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You assuming he'll stop trying to do good just to get money speaks more about you than it does him, wouldn't you say?
Nah. It just says I don't buy his "I had a camp for some kids" bullshite. Get back to me when he's on Warrick Dunn's level.
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:12 am to StrongSafety
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They, along with Native Americans, fought their tails off for years to only to treated as worse then dogs. So yeah, for many of them, July 4th might just be an eye roll, or questionable holiday.
What do you mean "them"?!
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:19 am to Bench McElroy
Stop. Giving. Him. Attention.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:20 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:Yes. Look it up yourself...but nah, you just choose to assume the worst. So again, what's that say about you for doing so?
Has he? Such as?
quote:That speaks volumes about you.
Nah. It just says I don't buy his "I had a camp for some kids" bull shite
quote:What level are you on for giving back to your community? Are you on Warrick Dunn's level? If not, you're making yourself look really small right now.
Get back to me when he's on Warrick Dunn's level.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:31 am to StrongSafety
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Bad business model and bad leadership.
Why? Because the majority is controlled by "Whitey"? That's what you really want to say.
Too bad because that's the way it will always be.
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...but its affinity to hide and disclose, rather than be transparent and evolve is a recipe for a huge fall
I will say the exact same thing about a black person that held America hostage over the past 8 years. Where was your outrage then? Especially considering this country is way more important than the NFL. Is it because "Whitey" is in charge? Well, look at the disrespectful "ghetto behavior" that America sunk to over the past 8 years and you'll see why.
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History won't be kind
I can promise you that kaeperstink will be but a blip on the radar screen relative to the NFL in years to come. Quit trying to play the race card at every turn. That shtick is beyond played out and has lost it's "culcha luster".
You need to remember, you said it yourself...........the NFL rakes in BILLIONS in revenue. kaeperstink is nothing but an attention whore that got exactly what he deserved. Let that clown go play in the canadian league where he'll fit right in the the turds up there.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:32 am to shel311
Getting disproportionally gun down by your service men and women and being systematically discriminated against IS NOT ridiculous. So no I don't tune those things out. We can't rip on other countries for deplorable human rights when we treat some of our own worse than dogs.
When has racial progress ever come in this country by being kind to the majority? The majority hated MLK; the FBI had surveillance on him. Racial progress has never been as kind and easy as revisionist history makes it appear. There has always been some sort of disturbance or upheaval. It's sad and it's shouldn't be that way, but it literally wouldn't be that way unless the oppressed was forced to be forceful about.
It speaks more to the majority being resistance to change or adherent to this belief that "change" take something away from them.
It's working out well for him. He has no regrets
When has racial progress ever come in this country by being kind to the majority? The majority hated MLK; the FBI had surveillance on him. Racial progress has never been as kind and easy as revisionist history makes it appear. There has always been some sort of disturbance or upheaval. It's sad and it's shouldn't be that way, but it literally wouldn't be that way unless the oppressed was forced to be forceful about.
It speaks more to the majority being resistance to change or adherent to this belief that "change" take something away from them.
It's working out well for him. He has no regrets
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:33 am to StrongSafety
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It's working out well for him.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:33 am to shel311
153 years ago on July 4th, nearly 25,000 Americans lost their lives in a bid to end slavery.
Instead of going to Ghana, he should visit Gettysburg.
Instead of going to Ghana, he should visit Gettysburg.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:38 am to StrongSafety
quote:Phew, good thing I never said it was. You trying to build the world's largest straw man or something? Is that what you're going for? Or are you just really bad at logic and debate? Has to be 1 of those things for you to make that comment.
Getting disproportionally gun down by your service men and women and being systematically discriminated against IS NOT ridiculous.
quote:So we've had racial progress because of Kaep? Cool, glad to see it's working and things are getting better.
It's working out well for him. He has no regrets
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:41 am to Jcorye1
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If he had voted I'd agree with you
Bingo.
The guy is a fraud.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:45 am to NawlinsTiger9
Good call. Add not voting to the list of the pig socks and disparaging the 4th of July.
You can totally agree with his overall premise of what he's hoping for, but you're going to have a hard time admitting he's done a good job of bringing disagreeing sides together.
You can totally agree with his overall premise of what he's hoping for, but you're going to have a hard time admitting he's done a good job of bringing disagreeing sides together.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:47 am to shel311
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You can totally agree with his overall premise of what he's hoping for, but you're going to have a hard time admitting he's done a good job of bringing disagreeing sides together.
Yep, I agree.
He reminds me of that super-passionate teenager that just discovered politics - lots of wild, great ideas, but not a shred of logic when it comes to the execution or conversations surrounding them.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:51 am to NawlinsTiger9
Yea. That's why I'm kinda playing both sides in this thread. He's done a lot of great things, made donations, gave his actual time to help those in need.
But he hasn't done a good job of trying to bring everyone together. Granted, I don't think he's making any dent, but you could argue he's making things more divisive by his actions.
But he hasn't done a good job of trying to bring everyone together. Granted, I don't think he's making any dent, but you could argue he's making things more divisive by his actions.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:52 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:I decided to help you out:
Has he? Such as?
Google, Colin Kaepernick giving back
quote:See the Google search, that is why saying things like this make you look small, or that you have some sort of other agenda or reason for making you say such things. I just don't know what that is.
Nah. It just says I don't buy his "I had a camp for some kids" bull shite
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:55 am to 31TIGERS
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Why? Because the majority is controlled by "Whitey"? That's what you really want to say. Too bad because that's the way it will always be.
What a poor poor insinuation. Are you suggesting that white owners cannot adapt socially or do the right thing? That's a pretty low thing and false thing to suggest. It's patently false.
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will say the exact same thing about a black person that held America hostage over the past 8 years. Where was your outrage then? Especially considering this country is way more important than the NFL. Is it because "Whitey" is in charge? Well, look at the disrespectful "ghetto behavior" that America sunk to over the past 8 years and you'll see why.
By many Accounts, our best president since Kennedy. What did he hold "hostage"? Ghetto behavior ? What happen that was so so bad or something we hadn't seen before. It's an old wives tale to pit the pitfalls of America on black people. It's literally been happening since 1776 and it patently false again. Good try George Wallace.
The NFL supports a failing sport. Participation is down, there are very few ways to make the sport safe and fans are rightfully fed up with their deplorable business practices. Billions now doesn't mean much when it might be out of business in 30 years.
But I guess you can't see the long game. Most be zero sum guy
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:56 am to shel311
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Are you on Warrick Dunn's level?
I believe she is a teacher so ya she probably is
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:57 am to shel311
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Yes. Look it up yourself...but nah, you just choose to assume the worst. So again, what's that say about you for doing so?
And how much of that conveniently came about after he was called out for his stances but little to no community work?
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That speaks volumes about you.
It really doesn't.
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What level are you on for giving back to your community? Are you on Warrick Dunn's level? If not, you're making yourself look really small right now.
I've worked with kids in high-poverty, high-crime areas in the inner city here for almost a decade now. Half of that time spent in residential facilities for youth who are runaways, kids who have been abused, etc. I feel pretty good about what I give back to my community. Sorry that I don't have millions to donate to some random charities though.
Like I said, get back with me when he's on Warrick Dunn's level. Or Lebron's level for that matter. Anybody with his fortune can throw a little money at a charity cause because he gets called out. Get back to me when I actually see him walking the streets in black communities and dealing with the issues hands on.
He certainly has the free time to do so these days.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:00 am to TigerintheNO
A man can't trace his roots?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:02 am to shel311
Does change happen in a day? VRA wasn't signed in one day --- literally took about 200 years of Kaepernicks, Garveys, Dubios, MLKs, a couple wars, a lot of bloodshed (his shouldn't happen in 2017), etc just to get hacks to stop denying POC the right to vote.
Unfortunately, those against progress has historically made the search for justice a long and tired right, but the score card isn't in their favor.
Unfortunately, those against progress has historically made the search for justice a long and tired right, but the score card isn't in their favor.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:03 am to NawlinsTiger9
I do think not voting was a huge misstep by him. Was very disappointed that he did not do so.
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