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re: John Calipari has been coaching for 30+ years, and only has 1 NC to show
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:42 am to RTR America
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:42 am to RTR America
quote:Meh we'll see how it works for him. Its not a good strategy long term. Junior and Senior led teams will always dominate. Every once in a while you will get a Syracuse(Melo and Mcnamara) or UK(Davis and Gilchrist) or Duke(Allen Okafor Jones and Winslow) but they will be few and far between.
The best coach in the game, K, has fully embraced it like Cal has.
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Posted on 3/24/16 at 4:19 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Meh we'll see how it works for him.
He already has won a title doing it.
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Junior and Senior led teams will always dominate.
I'd argue Cal sticking with the experience over talent in the Final Four is what cost them an undefeated season. A Ulis/Booker backcourt likely wins that game for them.
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Every once in a while you will get a Syracuse(Melo and Mcnamara) or UK(Davis and Gilchrist) or Duke(Allen Okafor Jones and Winslow) but they will be few and far between.
I'd argue the down seasons have been more few and far between. At least for Cal so far. Duke and UK should be both top 5 teams next season.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 7:27 am to UFownstSECsince1950
That's one more than Dale Brown
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:25 am to Hot Carl
Calhoun and boeheim? 
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:27 am to UFownstSECsince1950
It's about the kids and preparing them for life after college, that means more than any title.
Lay off Calipari!
Lay off Calipari!
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:34 am to tiderider
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great troll ... highly original ...
Yeah, he might not know this, but winning a national championship in college basketball is difficult. One bad night can end your season.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:56 am to UFownstSECsince1950
I get that titles are what you play for, but judging the success and merit of a coach mainly off the results of a luck driven tournament seems pretty silly to me.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:58 am to texag7
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Overrated
The guy helps kids succeed and achieve their goal of making it to the NBA.
I'd say he's quite underrated.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 10:04 am to UFownstSECsince1950
How may coaches have coached for 30 years or won a national title?
How many coaches have taken an A-10 team to the Final Four, won a national title with a different team, and come within seconds of another national title with a third team? All that and he's also taken the New Jersey Nets to the playoffs. No small feat.
Can't argue those facts. Now, his tactics--the NCAA penalties, vacating wins--are a different story. But is he much more crooked than guys like Pitino and Roy Williams?
How many coaches have taken an A-10 team to the Final Four, won a national title with a different team, and come within seconds of another national title with a third team? All that and he's also taken the New Jersey Nets to the playoffs. No small feat.
Can't argue those facts. Now, his tactics--the NCAA penalties, vacating wins--are a different story. But is he much more crooked than guys like Pitino and Roy Williams?
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 11:40 am
Posted on 3/24/16 at 10:09 am to Hot Carl
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Cal is arguably the 2nd best college coach in the last 30 years behind coach K. You could argue Izzo, Calhoun, and maybe Boeheim right around there. The fact that he only has 1 NC speaks way more to the terribly flawed--while granted, exciting--system to crown the CBB NC. Cal is one of the greatest coaches to ever don a college position. If you can't recognize that, that's on you, not Cal.
This is well said.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 10:48 am to REG861
quote:Considering how you missed his point, you are the idiot. Memphis has 0 National Titles in any relevant sport. So the fact the OP is using Cals finals run at UM as a negative is idiotic. UMASS also has 0 titles in any major sport. So once again, the fact Cal made a run there is fantastic.
Considering Memphis was in the championship, and seconds away from winning it, I'd say you are an idiot
He has been at a program that truly competes for titles for 7 years and he has one title.
1/7 is 14%
Coach K wins national titles at exactly 14% while at Duke......
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 10:49 am
Posted on 3/24/16 at 10:58 am to RoysVertigoat
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Wut
Others are vacated by the NCAA
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:02 am to Rabbs and QStick
quote:Whatever. The NCAA cant erase what actually happened
Others are vacated by the NCAA
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:07 am to Bench McElroy
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He's only been at 1 program that has a realistic shot at winning a NC (
bullshite, A Coach like calipari could win a national title at Memphis if he stayed there.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:09 am to stlslick
quote:That isnt the point. The point is to judge his years at UMASS and UM based on National Titles is ludicrous. Those programs have 0 in their history for any major sport
bullshite, A Coach like calipari could win a national title at Memphis if he stayed there.
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 11:10 am
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:11 am to RTR America
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I'd argue the down seasons have been more few and far between. At least for Cal so far. Duke and UK should be both top 5 teams next season.
Preseason sure but postseason? If Allen stays I could see Duke in the top 5 highly doubt UK will be top 5 though
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:18 am to VerlanderBEAST
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If Allen stays I could see Duke in the top 5 highly doubt UK will be top 5 though
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:22 am to Ex-Popcorn
Ken Pomeroy ? ?@kenpomeroy
UPDATED top 10 2016-17: 10) Virginia, 9) Indiana, 8) Wisconsin, 7) Oregon, 6) UNC, 5) Kansas, 4) Villanova, 3) Duke, 2) Kentucky, 1) Louisville
Kentucky's recruiting class:
#5, #6, #7, #17, #24, and UK leads (supposedly) for #16
Add returning players: Briscoe, Lee, Willis, Hawkins, Humphries
Insane.
UPDATED top 10 2016-17: 10) Virginia, 9) Indiana, 8) Wisconsin, 7) Oregon, 6) UNC, 5) Kansas, 4) Villanova, 3) Duke, 2) Kentucky, 1) Louisville
Kentucky's recruiting class:
#5, #6, #7, #17, #24, and UK leads (supposedly) for #16
Add returning players: Briscoe, Lee, Willis, Hawkins, Humphries
Insane.
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 11:24 am
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:27 am to Ex-Popcorn
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Add returning players: Briscoe, Lee, Willis, Hawkins, Humphries
Not sure Lee and Briscoe will stay. Both should.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:29 am to Hot Carl
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Cal is arguably the 2nd best college coach in the last 30 years behind coach K. You could argue Izzo, Calhoun, and maybe Boeheim right around there. The fact that he only has 1 NC speaks way more to the terribly flawed--while granted, exciting--system to crown the CBB NC. Cal is one of the greatest coaches to ever don a college position. If you can't recognize that, that's on you, not Cal.
Definitely not better than Pitino.
2 titles and 7 Final Fours >> 1 title and 6 Final Fours
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