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Joe Gibbs: I haven't given up on RGIII, he has great talent and shown he can win
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:20 am
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:20 am
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“I think first of all the thing that you can say about Robert Griffin is that he won the division his very first year, as a rookie,” Gibbs told the Junkies on 106.7 The Fan Tuesday morning. “We all saw him. He made great plays. You can’t go in that division and win the division unless you’ve got a quarterback that’s really operating. I think he’s proven to people he can do that, and so I think it’s a matter of health, the health issues, making sure that he’s totally healthy.
“And I think you’ve got somebody there that’s got great talent,” Gibbs went on. “Things haven’t gone his way. He’s been hurt. But I think you’ve got somebody there that is a real talent, and has proven that he can do it. It’s not like we’re guessing. This guy’s won the NFC East, and I know how hard that is to do. So I think we’ve got a great talent there. We’re going to start Kirk [Cousins] this week, [and] I think there’s probably still some questions there about Robert, making sure he’s totally healthy.”
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Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:35 am to Bench McElroy
Someone break it down for me. I don't follow the NFL much. What's the jen on this guy? Can he just not play QB or is he lazy as hell? What's the deal?
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:36 am to Bench McElroy
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I haven't given up on RGIII
The coaches and management have. That's all that matters.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:36 am to bamarep
I think it due to the fact that the coach doesn't like him and some of the players don't like him. Add to the fact that he never completely healed he just keeps digging deeper into the hole.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:39 am to Bench McElroy
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Gibbs told the Junkies on 106.7 The Fan Tuesday morning
Joe Gibbs is a donk
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:41 am to bamarep
Extremely talented, smart guy.
NOT a leader.
Always injured, or easily injured.
Has not learned how to read defensive schemes accurately, despite his intelligence. Might have comprehension issues.
NOT a leader.
Always injured, or easily injured.
Has not learned how to read defensive schemes accurately, despite his intelligence. Might have comprehension issues.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:42 am to Bench McElroy
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This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:44 am to bamarep
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Someone break it down for me. I don't follow the NFL much. What's the jen on this guy? Can he just not play QB or is he lazy as hell? What's the deal?
His OC hates him and is putting him in a scheme he's totally uncomfortable running. And it's probably past time to start questioning that organization for the way his health situation has been handled.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:44 am to SportsGuyNOLA
RGIII is all about himself. He's a weird dude...but intelligent...aloof...blames other players and coaches. Not mentally or physically tough enough...front runner
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:47 am to Tiger Ryno
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RGIII is all about himself. He's a weird dude...but intelligent...aloof...blames other players and coaches. Not mentally or physically tough enough...front runner
Agree with this.
Smart, talented guy, but teammates don't like him and he doesn't seem to be the leader a QB needs to be.
Also injures crazy easily.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:48 am to bamarep
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Someone break it down for me. I don't follow the NFL much. What's the jen on this guy? Can he just not play QB or is he lazy as hell? What's the deal?
Had a good rookie year but got hurt in the playoff game. I've heard more than a few talking heads say that basically he went to Snyder (owner) and said he didn't want to play that style anymore and wanted to be a pocket passer like Manning/Rodgers/Luck. But he simply doesn't have that skill set.
Also he has a bad attitude, that seems to be obvious to me.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:01 am to Goldrush25
Defenses scheme for the read option and take that away, and he can't play from under center.
This is a major issue that week plague many talented college QBs that can't adapt from the read to pro style.
This is a major issue that week plague many talented college QBs that can't adapt from the read to pro style.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:01 am to Bench McElroy
Jay Gruden has done RG3 no favors. He's an absolute clown.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:05 am to bamarep
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Someone break it down for me. I don't follow the NFL much. What's the jen on this guy? Can he just not play QB or is he lazy as hell? What's the deal?
Won the division his rookie year and played well by running a simplified offense similar to what he ran at Baylor that required him to run a lot and use his speed. While successful that year, it proved he couldn't physically hold up over time playing that way and exposing himself. Despite the fact that he's really fast, he isn't elusive at all and takes some brutal hits. Not a sturdy enough guy like Cam Newton to absorb that punishment.
Since that year they've tried to operate him as a real NFL qb which he's proven pretty overwhelmingly that he can't handle. He appears to lack instincts to play within the pocket. Indecisive and holds on to the ball forever, takes a ton of sacks despite having great mobility. Basically he's hopeless going forward, you can either run a college style offense that he can handle that will get him killed (even though he's not as fast post injury), or you can continue developing him as an NFL passer even though he's shown almost zero progression over 2 seasons and appears to just lack that ability.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:10 am to KosmoCramer
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Defenses scheme for the read option and take that away, and he can't play from under center.
This is a major issue that week plague many talented college QBs that can't adapt from the read to pro style.
I give him an ounce of credit for figuring out what some don't figure out until much later; playing from the pocket is how you last in the NFL.
Maybe he shouldn't have gone to Baylor. He'd been better off at a smaller FBS school playing in a pro style. By the time you get to the NFL it's far too late to change styles. There's simply not enough time to get the reps in needed to change habits.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:21 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:Couldn't have said it better myself
RGIII is all about himself. He's a weird dude...but intelligent...aloof...blames other players and coaches. Not mentally or physically tough enough...front runner
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:33 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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Someone on a podcast mentioned Seattle as a place to sit and learn and get some confidence back.
I would say philly but i doubt the redskins would allow that to happen.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:38 am to c on z
Mike shannahan said it was Snyder and griffin who decided the scheme. Griffin didn't want to be a running/option passer, he wanted to be a pure dropback
So it doesn't sound like the OC is sabotaging him, sounds like he's doing it to himself
So it doesn't sound like the OC is sabotaging him, sounds like he's doing it to himself
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:43 am to cajuntiger07
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I would say philly but i doubt the redskins would allow that to happen.
I said it before and i'll say it again, Philly would be perfect him.
Chip Kelly's system is tailored made for Griffin. If I was Kelly, I would try to get him and give a year to recuperate mentally and physically while learning the system.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:50 am to bigpetedatiga
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said it before and i'll say it again, Philly would be perfect him.
Chip Kelly's system is tailored made for Griffin
It isn't just the system. Chip is a QB whisperer.
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