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re: Jameis Winston admits to NCAA violation on Draft Academy (national TV)

Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:33 am to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:33 am to
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and then the cops grabbed you, 100% hey wouldn't charge you with stealing


Yeah okay
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:35 am to
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If someone in wal mart told you that you could have the Xbox for free, and then plain as day you walked out with it, and then the cops grabbed you, 100% hey wouldn't charge you with stealing. They would take possession of the goods but you yourself are not going to be charged with stealing


why don't you try this after work and see what happens.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8771 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:36 am to
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The one that couldn't even be proven in kangaroo court


The one that's featured in a movie about Campus Rape that aired at LSU last night and the one that is part of a civil lawsuit against him.

And the 2nd girl who claims he raped her as well.

The crab legs are not the elephant in the room.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95012 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:38 am to
How can I try it after work? You know place where wal mart employees are giving things away for free?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:48 am to
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I don't think it is stealing unless you are in on it. The employee is an extension of the company. If they offer a customer a free good it is not on the customer to say no. If your waiter comps your appetizer you do not need to go and ask the manager/owner in order to not be stealing



You don't see the distinction? There is an obvious difference between a nice waiter being like "I went ahead and got you _____, it's on the house" and "you can eat for free whenever you come in, bruh"
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57655 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:50 am to
It's not the employee's to give away. What don't you understand about that? It's owned by the company. It's up to the person to know better. The law doesn't allow ignorance as an excuse. Also do you know how often thieves use the excuse "someone said I could have it" when they get caught?

The principle is still the same whether the person said you could have it or not. The cops would view it the same way.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 8:51 am
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123612 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:50 am to
Auburn fans are still butthurt after Winston went in dry on them in the title game.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95012 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:52 am to
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You don't see the distinction? There is an obvious difference between a nice waiter being like "I went ahead and got you _____, it's on the house" and "you can eat for free whenever you come in, bruh"
Of course I see the difference. But in the eyes of the law they will go after the employee. An employee is an extension of your company. If one of them offers free goods in a customer in any capacity it is not on the customer to ask the owner if they had the power to do so. If in fact they were not granted the capacity to give such goods the owner will have recourse against the employee, not the customer. I don't understand how this isn't clear as day. Now, if you convince a friend of yours to take store goods and give them to you, then I see the owner having recourse over both parties
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:56 am to
Jameis is just continuing that FSU tradition of guys like Peter Warrick and Lavernious Coles.

Free Shoes University
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95012 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:03 am to
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It's not the employee's to give away. What don't you understand about that? It's owned by the company. It's up to the person to know better.
Not it isnt. Not at all. The company is responsible for its employees, and the employees are the extension of the company. It is not on the customer when they are offered free goods by an employee
Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes
Philadelphia
Member since Jul 2013
2015 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:20 am to
He also stole Auburn national title.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42479 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:27 am to
Why even bring that up
He should have taken high road and not even discussed it
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:29 am to
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Any chance he owns up to the rapes he committed?


what evidence do you have that he committed rape or is this just an internet quip?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:32 am to
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t's not the employee's to give away. What don't you understand about that? It's owned by the company. It's up to the person to know better


you've never gotten anything comp by a retail outlet? A meal, a drink a hotel room? Was it put up to the board to approve or did some employee give it too you? If the employee gave you say a free beer that he wasn't supposed to are you a "thief'?
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:34 am to
I wonder how many star athletes get this kind of treatment.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95012 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:35 am to
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you've never gotten anything comp by a retail outlet? A meal, a drink a hotel room? Was it put up to the board to approve or did some employee give it too you? If the employee gave you say a free beer that he wasn't supposed to are you a "thief'?
Yeh I dont see how people dont get this. Would he have to give the food back? Yes. But the recourse of the owner/law is on the employee who did not have the capacity to give away those items
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:36 am to
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He also stole Auburn national title.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:39 am to
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Would he have to give the food back? Yes.



I disagree unless he was "working" with the employee or something. I know a bartender that got fired for giving away too much, you can't hold the customers responsible if they didn't know.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:39 am to
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But the recourse of the owner/law is on the employee who did not have the capacity to give away those items
I don't think it's that black and white. Depending on the circumstances, the law can charge the person who received the stolen goods.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 9:40 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95012 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:41 am to
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Depending on the circumstances, the law can charge the person who received the stolen goods.
Yes, if the person was in on it. Meaning it was someone they knew and they had setup this system while knowing it was illegal. But if an athlete is told he doesnt have to pay somewhere I dont see the illegality on his end
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 9:43 am
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