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re: Is Tristan Thompson the most overpaid player in all of sports?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:20 pm to Domino Carver
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:20 pm to Domino Carver
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don't know. Be one of the 10 greatest players to ever dribble a basketball, spend his entire career inside the organization, own basically every single organization record, at the absolute worst is 1A on the all time laker rankings, won 5 championships and made it 7
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Not relevant to his current contract. Heck, he wasn't even playing *before* he signed it.
A contract is not a lifetime achievement award.
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:21 pm to WestCoastAg
Contracts shouldn't pay for past performance, outside of situations like Dwayne Wade taking less in his prime.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:24 pm to BoardReader
quote:while technically true, he returned to play like a 10 days after the signing
Heck, he wasn't even playing *before* he signed it.
quote:except they kinda are. At least a short term contract like kobes
A contract is not a lifetime achievement award
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:26 pm to Jcorye1
Ok? I never said it was a good deal, but I have zero problem with the Lakers giving him the contract we did. He deserves to be treated this way and it's not like it really handicapped us in any way. Maybe it kept us from keeping Pau but that would have done nothing to keep what is happening
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:29 pm to WestCoastAg
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He deserves to be treated this way and it's not like it really handicapped us in any way.
Wow.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:30 pm to SDVTiger
Just think how different things could have been in the summer of 2003 
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:36 pm to WestCoastAg
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it's not like it really handicapped us in any way. Maybe it kept us from keeping Pau but that would have done nothing to keep what is happening
One deal represented a third of the Laker cap.
That is an *incredible* hamstringing. It did keep Pau from being plausible, though keeping him would probably have required a slightly overpay-- and it killed flexibility for the rest of the roster-- there is a reason why the Lakers have had to trot out these lineups.
What do Jeremy Lin, Wesley Johnson, Wayne Ellington, Jordan Clarkson, Ryan Kelly, Jordan Hill, Robert Sacre, Kendall Marshall, and Jodie Meeks have in common?
They've all started more games for the Lakers than Kobe, since he signed that albatross of a deal.
Clarkson is developing into a serviceable NBA player, but man-- that's a damning indictment of Kobe's deal, that it hasn't been able to let them work to get even replacement level NBA players to throw out on the court.
They're the Lakers, not the Sacramento Kings. That should be one of the most unacceptable situations in professional basketball.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:41 pm to BoardReader
quote:right. Because we weren't acquiring top free agent talent anyway. No one was playing for this laker team regardless of how much money we had
One deal represented a third of the Laker cap.
That is an *incredible* hamstringing. It did keep Pau from being plausible, though keeping him would probably have required a slightly overpay-- and it killed flexibility for the rest of the roster-- there is a reason why the Lakers have had to trot out these lineups.
quote:ok?
What do Jeremy Lin, Wesley Johnson, Wayne Ellington, Jordan Clarkson, Ryan Kelly, Jordan Hill, Robert Sacre, Kendall Marshall, and Jodie Meeks have in common?
They've all started more games for the Lakers than Kobe, since he signed that albatross of a deal.
quote:like pau, but how does that change anything? Lakers win 30 games instead of 20?
Clarkson is developing into a serviceable NBA player, but man-- that's a damning indictment of Kobe's deal, that it hasn't been able to let them work to get
quote:and there are a myriad of reasons why the Lakers are in the situation they are in now and the kobe contract is faaaar down the list
They're the Lakers, not the Sacramento Kings. That should be one of the most unacceptable situations in professional basketball.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:47 pm to WestCoastAg
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like pau, but how does that change anything? Lakers win 30 games instead of 20?
and there are a myriad of reasons why the Lakers are in the situation they are in now and the kobe contract is faaaar down the list
It changes a ton; LA is a good free agency destination, if the perception of the team is not 'they're playing out Kobe's string as he chases Kareem', or 'They're entering the black hole of Kobe's last contract'.
The difference between playing for a Lakers team that is destined to go to 2 to 3 lotteries in a row, and one that is two free agent signings away from being a major competitor in the Western Conference is pretty massive.
Aside from Buss' children being functionally retarded, it is the largest reason for Laker implosion-- and mind, it is one of the major contributors to that perception of the Buss kids' ineptitude.
These dog years of Laker basketball belong at the feet of Kobe, almost as much as at the feet of the Buss kids.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:50 pm to BoardReader
quote:no they arent. A 30 win team with kobe making 8 million isn't getting both Carmelo and LeBron in 2013 and they aren't getting getting LMA or love on 2014 because the team is still going nowhere. Hell, we aren't getting KD this year after Kobe's contract is off the books for that exact reason. We are going to lose games this year and even with kobe gone, it won't do anything to change the perception that if you come to LA, you are being put in the middle of a rebuild
It changes a ton; LA is a good free agency destination, if the perception of the team is not 'they're playing out Kobe's string as he chases Kareem', or 'They're entering the black hole of Kobe's last contract'.
quote:no. These years fall jointly at the feet of David stern killing an accepted trade and the buss children. Kobe is a distant third to those two
These dog years of Laker basketball belong at the feet of Kobe, almost as much as at the feet of the Buss kids
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:51 pm to WestCoastAg
Kobe was resigned for more reasons than just a "lifetime achievement award"
Kobe puts asses in the seats, viewers on the screen, and brings other players to LA (most of the time).
His economic impact is far more than 30 million or whatever he's making.
Kobe puts asses in the seats, viewers on the screen, and brings other players to LA (most of the time).
His economic impact is far more than 30 million or whatever he's making.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:54 pm to 13SaintTiger
Only the person writing the check can answer that.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:56 pm to Domino Carver
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I'm gonna go with Matt Flynn. He signed like a $30 million dollar contract after he had 1 good game as a back-up.
Once again, there was hope that Matt Flynn could be a serviceable starting QB based on that one game performance. There was no evidence that Tristan could do anything other than rebound.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:57 pm to The Pirate King
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Kobe was resigned for more reasons than just a "lifetime achievement award"
Kobe puts asses in the seats, viewers on the screen, and brings other players to LA (most of the time).
His economic impact is far more than 30 million or whatever he's making.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:09 pm to WestCoastAg
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Just think how different things could have been in the summer of 2003
Yup thanks to Stern he destroyed the Lakers and revived the Clippers as only show in Town
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:10 pm to SDVTiger
quote:i wouldnt necessarily use the word revived but hey, do you
revived the Clippers
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:13 pm to WestCoastAg
Do you? Wtf
Lakers will be irrelevant for years but hey do you right?
Lakers will be irrelevant for years but hey do you right?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:14 pm to SDVTiger
quote:i dont think you understand what that saying means
Lakers will be irrelevant for years but hey do you right?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:15 pm to The Pirate King
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Kobe was resigned for more reasons than just a "lifetime achievement award"
Kobe puts asses in the seats, viewers on the screen, and brings other players to LA (most of the time).
His economic impact is far more than 30 million or whatever he's making.
The impact of a team that was competing for a title would be significantly bigger.
But, hey. Its the Lakers' money to waste on being less than an afterthought.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:16 pm to BoardReader
quote:and we arent competing for this regardless if kobe is making 25 million or 8 million
The impact of a team that was competing for a title would be significantly bigger.
quote:i believe we will be the 5th or 6th most nationally televised team this year
But, hey. Its the Lakers' money to waste on being less than an afterthought.
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