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re: Is the 1984 BYU National Championship the least deserving NC of all time?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:37 pm to lsusa
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:37 pm to lsusa
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The slogan of the BCS was "every game counts" - that proved to be fraudulent.
Maybe the other teams shouldn't have lost to inopportune opponents either, plus LSU being Alabama's sole loss logically produced that BCS title matchup considering how good LSU was that year as the sole undefeated team in America. Bama gamed the system and succeeded, the other squads fricked up its that simple.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:39 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Nah Bama finished 3rd in the SEC that season.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:42 pm to cattus
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Nah Bama finished 3rd in the SEC that season.
What does that have to do with anything? It's about how Alabama manipulated the BCS system to their advantage whereas others didn't by losing to clearly inferior teams at inopportune times, Alabama's one loss to the undefeated number one team in America was inarguably better than the others' losses and that proved the difference in deciding the BCS title game matchup.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:43 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Nah Bama finished 3rd in the SEC that season
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:51 pm to cattus
quote:What is your point?
Nah Bama finished 3rd in the SEC that season
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:52 pm to cattus
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Nah Bama finished 3rd in the SEC that season.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:54 pm to MontyFranklyn
The answer is 1941 Bama and even they will admit that
They were 9-2 and ranked 20 in the ap poll yet they claim national champions
They were 9-2 and ranked 20 in the ap poll yet they claim national champions
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:57 pm to slackster
LSU lost 2 games in 07 and won.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:59 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:Amd they were still the most deserving team that season. You and others seem to have trouble comprehending this
LSU lost 2 games in 07 and won.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:15 pm to lsupride87
quote:I get embarrassed every time I see that team mentioned.
The answer is 1941 Bama
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:16 pm to MontyFranklyn
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So you are saying that the Oklahoma State loss to Iowa State didn't can't as much or something?
It probably meant more bc Iowa State was clearly inferior to Oklahoma State that season and, by virtue of OSU's undefeated season at that point, OSU would've played LSU in New Orleans had they preserved the undefeated season. Logic being: 2 undefeated teams from separate power 5 conferences, rewarding teams that win their games in lieu of losing with tough SOS'. In the end, it didn't matter that OSU was from a separate conference and had one loss bc they took a rankings' beating post hoc and that was reflected in their BCS rankings as opposed to Bama's BCS shortfall which was basically non-existent after losing to the no. 1 team in America in one of the season's most exciting games. Point is, it matters who you lose to if playing in a context with a plethora of 1 loss teams competing for a BCS title game berth.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:17 pm to ReauxlTide222
I just have no clue while y'all retroactively decided to claim it. It taints all of yalls claims. Honestly, all your other claims are legit, but 1941 is such a joke it makes people question your whole list
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:20 pm to sms151t
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Only unbeaten and Bama is winner of this question
Don't blame BYU for something they didn't have control of
Who cares if they were unbeaten. Boise State was unbeaten in 2009. Utah unbeaten in 2004. Marshall unbeaten in 1999. Tulane unbeaten in 1998.
BYU played in the crappy WAC...every other team in their conference had at least 4 losses!
Washington's only loss was 16-7 to #9 USC and Washington beat #2 Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:22 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
There is no need to discuss this
It is 1941 Bama
They were 9-2 with losses to miss state and Vandy
Miss state itself finished 8-1-1 and won the sec
There were countless 1 loss teams and Minnesota was undefeated
They finished 20 in the ap
Yet, they claim the national championship
It is 1941 Bama
They were 9-2 with losses to miss state and Vandy
Miss state itself finished 8-1-1 and won the sec
There were countless 1 loss teams and Minnesota was undefeated
They finished 20 in the ap
Yet, they claim the national championship
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:24 pm to lsusa
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There was zero justification for that team being in the BCS Championship Game.
Obviously people who mattered more than you disagreed.
quote:
The slogan of the BCS was "every game counts" - that proved to be fraudulent.
Their mission statement was also to put the two best teams into the championship game, not the two "most deserving" teams.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:26 pm to lsupride87
What year did they go back and claim it?
And hopefully one day the powers at be will unclaim it.
And hopefully one day the powers at be will unclaim it.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:26 pm to lsupride87
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There is no need to discuss this
It is 1941 Bama
Alabama is the only team in the NCAA who recognizes that title. We're talking real national championships here. Not national titles awarded by the university to make itself look better.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:29 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Washington's only loss was 16-7 to #9 USC and Washington beat #2 Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl
Who was #1 going into the Bowl season?
Who was only unbeaten untied team in Division 1-A?
Who didn't win their conference?
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:43 pm to slackster
In defense of that BYU team they didn't get the opportunity to prove themselves in a big time bowl matchup because of bowl tie-ins.
That really sucks that they played in the Holiday Bowl.
That really sucks that they played in the Holiday Bowl.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:45 pm to slackster
BYU did not play a single team who finished the season ranked in the top 20.
And that Michigan team that BYU beat? From 1968 to 2007, only one Michigan team finished without a winning record. 1984 Michigan.
And that Michigan team that BYU beat? From 1968 to 2007, only one Michigan team finished without a winning record. 1984 Michigan.
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