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re: Is Russ the best PG in the NBA?

Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:35 am to
Posted by AreJay
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:35 am to
quote:

ignoring the injury issue, pretty sure curry is the only player (with starter minutes) in NBA history to have a 10-point PER jump after the age of 25 so i'll gladly be wrong due to the one outlier example in the history of the NBA of this occurring


Trying to find anyone close.

Steve Nash. Bench guy for 2 yrs. Then traded to Mavs.
Age 24 - started all 40g (NBA lockout) with 10.9 PER
Age 25 - 13.5 PER missed like 27g but played basically starters minutes .
Age 26 - 19.6 PER
Age 27-32 = 20.7, 22.6, 20.5, 22.0, 23.3, 23.8 PERs


Chauncey Billups. Starter at age 21, 22, 23. PERs of 13.6, 15.1, 10.5. At Age 24 PER of 14.1.............Age 29-31 PERs = 23.4, 21.3, 23.6.



I'm guessing if we go back further in time some more close calls will come up. Need guys who end up with super high PERs bc 10 pts of PER is A LOT...if we were talking %increase in PER that'd be diff........but probably need some 3 yr and 4 yr college guys. Nowadays the top PER lists are filled with dudes who barely played college and so entered the league super young and had a ton of seasons before age 25
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Top 15 NBA "Looking Forward" Players (over the next 10 years)
1. Durant
2. Westbrook
3. Love
4. Rose
5. Lebron
6. Howard
7. Eric Gordon
8. Greg Monroe
9. Blake Griffin
10. Paul George
11. Kyrie Irving
12. Jrue Holiday
13. Bynum
14. Demarcus Cousins
15. Enes Kanter

i think howard is going to fall off some

kobe/wade/paul/curry are out of the discussion due to long-term health and/or age worries

and obviously i'm projecting and may have made a big mistake somewhere

curry is a man without a position, though

his stats were inflated by GS's old offense

you were saying?

bynum has been healthy this year and is like 24

gordon is 23
bynum is a big man and much more valuable than curry or gordon. if bynum had no health concerns he'd be 2 behind durant

gordon > curry when healthy, and i'm not as worried about his ability to hold up

curry has a possible sever structural injury to his ankle, and he wasn't amazing in his role on the non-super tempo warriors



All we need to know
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:54 am to
whoa whose post was that?
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 10:55 am
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:55 am to
quote:

3. Love
4. Rose
5. Lebron
6. Howard
7. Eric Gordon


Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88859 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:56 am to
How long ago was that?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:00 am to
Jrue Holliday is as funny as Gordon imo.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:01 am to
This thread hurts my eyes.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Steph is the best player in the NBA right now, so no, Russ is not the best PG.


I am expecting OKC to advance to the west finals and give GSW all they can handle and then some.

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:12 am to
quote:

I am expecting OKC to advance to the west finals
That would be great wouldnt it.

quote:

give GSW all they can handle and then some.
it'd be one heck of a 5 game series, probably as competitive as a 5 gamer could be.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:28 am to
Russ is real
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:30 am to
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30135 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:58 am to
Okc had multiple games where they could have shut down gsw to only implode because of Westbrook.

It's like the simple fact curry is a better shooter than him irritates him so much he has to jack up 3s after curry does.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

it'd be one heck of a 5 game series, probably as competitive as a 5 gamer could be.



one time Celtics beat Lakers by 30 in game one and all the others were decided in OT or by one shot. Lakers won in 5. McHale had severely sprained ankle in game one.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82056 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Okc had multiple games where they could have shut down gsw to only implode because of Westbrook.

It's like the simple fact curry is a better shooter than him irritates him so much he has to jack up 3s after curry does.



They played great in most of the games against the warriors....and still lost
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
40984 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:44 pm to
OKC will have to play flawlessly to beat GS (and the Spurs as well).

But going from a 10-12 man rotation to the typical 8 of the playoffs will definitely benefit OKC.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17107 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 5:24 pm to
quote:


But going from a 10-12 man rotation to the typical 8 of the playoffs will definitely benefit OKC.



Depends...are Dion Waiters and Kyle Singler two of the eight?
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Depends...are Dion Waiters and Kyle Singler two of the eight?


Dion does not suck. He has a lot of motivation and can defend reasonably well.

Kyle Singler is a waste of air.

If we can get big Turkey on the floor as much as possible, the bench will do just fine (against anyone besides GSW or SAS )
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28732 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:36 pm to
I tried to give you a downvote, but I guess I gave you one the 1st time.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 6:36 pm
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28732 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

gordon > curry when healthy, and i'm not as worried about his ability to hold up



Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22950 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:00 pm to
1. Steph

2. Russ

3. CP3

Is how I'd rank the top 3 right now. With a large gap between Russ and CP3.
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