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re: Is Rafael Nadal done?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 7:40 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 7/2/15 at 7:40 pm to Bench McElroy
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No. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say he's going to win the U.S. Open. He's 20-1 at the U.S Open since 2010 with a winning record against Djoker. He's going to get his groove back and win.
Pretty bold, given his struggles throughout the entire year.
Of course, in 2013, he didn't play the Australian Open, then recovered and won the French, before losing in the first round at Wimbledon to the 135th ranked player in the world.
He then dominated the hard-court season, and won the US Open pretty easily.
I seriously doubt he repeats that history, though.
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 7:47 pm to BayouBengals03
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Of course, in 2013, he didn't play the Australian Open, then recovered and won the French, before losing in the first round at Wimbledon to the 135th ranked player in the world.
He then dominated the hard-court season, and won the US Open pretty easily.
Who says PEDs don't help?
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I seriously doubt he repeats that history, though.
He needs to borrow Djoker's PEDs these days.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 7:50 pm to Bench McElroy
I don't think he's winning the US Open. Way more guys can play well on hardcourt than grass. I actually think it might be harder for Rafa to win there than Wimbledon, although I understand the arguments the other way.
I think he has a major or two left in him. Maybe he needs a new coach. Uncle Toni has probably taken him as far as he can.
I think he has a major or two left in him. Maybe he needs a new coach. Uncle Toni has probably taken him as far as he can.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 7/2/15 at 7:57 pm to Bunk Moreland
Let's imagine for a second that Nadal and Federer have just two years left and maybe just one major left in them.
Who the hell are the up and comers in tennis?
Where are the young guys? You usually have guys in late teens, early 20's pushing the top guys consistently.
Maybe that's a "What is the state of tennis" thread, but it doesn't look good imo.
Who the hell are the up and comers in tennis?
Where are the young guys? You usually have guys in late teens, early 20's pushing the top guys consistently.
Maybe that's a "What is the state of tennis" thread, but it doesn't look good imo.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 8:03 pm to Taurus
I was kind of bummed as a kid when Johnny Mac and some of the Swedes I liked like Edberg and Wilander faded, but along came Agassi (and Sampras). Then, I honestly thought I wouldn't watch the sport much when Agassi retired, but Fed, Nadal, Djoker, and Murray to some extent have taken it to insane heights. We may be ending the golden age of tennis and just end up having guys who win a major here or there like Roddick and Hewitt, but I suspect someone will come along and dominate.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 8:06 pm to Taurus
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Where are the young guys? You usually have guys in late teens, early 20's pushing the top guys consistently.
Prime age has moved back in tennis, IMO. Seems to be more like 26-28 now.
Stan broke through later in his career. Cilic was 25 before he really made a big jump.
Just an opinion. Another reason why the younger guys you alluded to maybe haven't pushed through yet is because they're having to break through against 3 of the greatest players ever, and one of the top 15 players ever. And yeah, they can maybe beat one of those guys on any given day. But to win big tournaments, you have to beat 3 of them.
It's just really tough.This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 7/2/15 at 8:10 pm to Bunk Moreland
Take a look at the ages of the top 50 tennis players. I was shocked at how old that group is and the youngest guy shows up at #26.
I know the transition from 2000-2003 was not good tennis to watch and I think we're about to head for another weak 3-4 years of tennis starting next year.
I know the transition from 2000-2003 was not good tennis to watch and I think we're about to head for another weak 3-4 years of tennis starting next year.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:52 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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This...I would wager he will still be a force on the terre battue. He is a bull, plays with such force and abandon - I think its natural to expect players like that to "tennis age" quicker.
He was never going to age well. And he might be done. It makes me :(
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:53 am to Taurus
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and I think we're about to head for another weak 3-4 years of tennis starting next year.
Novak doe
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:00 am to SystemsGo
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He was never going to age well. And he might be done. It makes me :(
GOATs typically age well. Fed, for instance.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:00 am to Taurus
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00-2003 was not good tennis to watch and I think we're about to head for another weak 3-4 years of tennis starting
I have a gut feeling somebody will rise up from the 1995-1998 generation to become the next dominant force. I'm just not sure who it's going to be. It could be Kyrgios or Kokkinakis or Coric or somebody else from that age group but one of them will rise up to be the next great player.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:04 am to gizmoflak
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GOATs typically age well. Fed, for instance.
When was the last time he won a major?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:09 am to SystemsGo
When was the last time Fed lost to absolute scrubs in a major?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:15 am to gizmoflak
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When was the last time Fed lost to absolute scrubs in a major?
I didn't realize making quarterfinals late in your career made someone GOAT.
Good to know.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:17 am to gizmoflak
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When was the last time Fed lost to absolute scrubs in a major?
Scrub?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:39 am to gizmoflak
How many majors has Fed won since Rafa won his first? Usually GOAT don't get dominated by another player.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:43 am to OblongMidget
quote:I count roughly 11-13. So I don't think you know what you're talking about.
How many majors has Fed won since Rafa won his first? Usually GOAT don't get dominated by another player.
Fed:
Grand Slam Singles results
Australian Open W (2004, 2006, 2007, 2010)
French Open W (2009)
Wimbledon W (2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2012)
US Open W (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)
Nadal:
Australian Open W (2009)
French Open W (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)
Wimbledon W (2008, 2010)
US Open W (2010, 2013)
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 9:46 am
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:52 am to Bench McElroy
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No. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say he's going to win the U.S. Open. He's 20-1 at the U.S Open since 2010 with a winning record against Djoker. He's going to get his groove back and win.
i'd be able to believe this if he wasn't terrible (for his standards) in the claycourt season
nadal in 2015 is not very good
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:55 am to jturn17
Meant to say first Wimbledon
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:03 am to gizmoflak
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GOATs typically age well. Fed, for instance.
Fed has 4 GS final appearances and 2 GS wins since his age 28 season.
Since Rafa's season 28(last year) he has 2 GS Final appearances and 1 GS win.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 10:04 am
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