- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Is Nascar a sport? Are golfers athletes? I think I have the perfect definition..
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:25 am
First, let me define a sport. I feel that the best definition of a sport is a competition that requires direct physical ability.
So for example, poker is not a sport because although it is a competition, it doesn't require physical skills. Auto racing (Nascar), for example, DOES require physical ability. The drivers are using their body to drive the car. Same with golfers. They are out there using their body to play the game.
Therefore, both Nascar and Golf ARE sports.
But are Nascar drivers and Golfers athletes?
My definition of whether or not a sportsman is an athlete takes a little judgement. I think if a sportsman would gain a huge advantage by being much more athletic than his peers (faster, stronger, more explosive, more agile, etc), than that sport has athletes.
So for example... in football and basketball, you have a huge advantage if you are more athletic than your competition. Same with baseball, soccer, hockey, etc. Therefore, those sports have athletes.
Athleticism, however, does not give you a huge advantage in a sport like golf and nascar. You could be LeBron James and it's not going to help you much in golf and it's not going to help you be a better auto racer. Therefore, although golf and nascar are sports, the competitors are NOT athletes because athleticism is virtually irrelevant.
So for example, poker is not a sport because although it is a competition, it doesn't require physical skills. Auto racing (Nascar), for example, DOES require physical ability. The drivers are using their body to drive the car. Same with golfers. They are out there using their body to play the game.
Therefore, both Nascar and Golf ARE sports.
But are Nascar drivers and Golfers athletes?
My definition of whether or not a sportsman is an athlete takes a little judgement. I think if a sportsman would gain a huge advantage by being much more athletic than his peers (faster, stronger, more explosive, more agile, etc), than that sport has athletes.
So for example... in football and basketball, you have a huge advantage if you are more athletic than your competition. Same with baseball, soccer, hockey, etc. Therefore, those sports have athletes.
Athleticism, however, does not give you a huge advantage in a sport like golf and nascar. You could be LeBron James and it's not going to help you much in golf and it's not going to help you be a better auto racer. Therefore, although golf and nascar are sports, the competitors are NOT athletes because athleticism is virtually irrelevant.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 10:58 am
11
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:26 am to PrimeTime Money
Try it with other sports or competitions. Is fishing a sport? Are fisherman athletes?
Fishing competitions require physical ability. Therefore, it IS a sport. However, being LeBron James is not going to help you be a better fisherman.
Therefore, fisherman are not athletes.
Fishing competitions require physical ability. Therefore, it IS a sport. However, being LeBron James is not going to help you be a better fisherman.
Therefore, fisherman are not athletes.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:30 am to PrimeTime Money
My personally, I've always defined a "sport" as a competition where someone is directly trying to impede your success. Gymnastics, golf, darts, things like that...you do your thing and the other guy does his thing, and you see who did better.
Baseball, basketball, football, baseball, etc....the opponent is directly trying to not let you do well.
That's just me. Has nothing to do with being athletic, more so about the method of competition.
Baseball, basketball, football, baseball, etc....the opponent is directly trying to not let you do well.
That's just me. Has nothing to do with being athletic, more so about the method of competition.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:33 am to WG_Dawg
quote:So playing "go fish" with your grandma is a sport?
My personally, I've always defined a "sport" as a competition where someone is directly trying to impede your success. Gymnastics, golf, darts, things like that...you do your thing and the other guy does his thing, and you see who did better. Baseball, basketball, football, baseball, etc....the opponent is directly trying to not let you do well. That's just me. Has nothing to do with being athletic, more so about the method of competition.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:35 am to PrimeTime Money
a tiny bit of common sense has to be applied, which I assumed would be obvious. I could invent a game in my living room against a friend where we're directly trying to stop each other from something but that wouldn't make it a sport.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:42 am to WG_Dawg
quote:Then you do not have a proper definition.
a tiny bit of common sense has to be applied
The line for me between sport and competition is the physicality factor. You have no line. It's just up to your own opinion.
If the competition requires physical skills, then it is a sport. If it doesn't, it's a competition but not a sport.
Darts, which was one of your examples, requires physical skills of throwing darts, therefore it's a sport. But the competitors are not athletes.
Playing cards is not a sport because it requires no physical skills.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 9:43 am
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:57 am to PrimeTime Money
Stop posting.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:23 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
DOES require physical ability.
Is endurance a physical ability? Nascar drivers go 500 miles in a 100+ degree car on a stiff suspension with intense concentration. I'm worn out after driving 500 miles in my air conditioned auto with the cruise control on
and they don't get to get out, stretch, and piss when they stop for gas.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:24 am to PrimeTime Money
There is a difference in athleticism and skill. More skill is required in golf and racing. Your Lebron analogy sucks.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:26 am to PrimeTime Money
Shut up.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:40 am to TbirdSpur2010
Hemingway said it best:
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”
With that said I do consider racers athletes. I consider NASCAR drivers athletes but I dare say that IndyCar and F1 require a more athletic (is that the right word) driver than NASCAR and other forms of motor sport. Though I think endurance racing (Le Mans, 24 Hours of Daytona, etc etc) are a real special breed of drivers.
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”
With that said I do consider racers athletes. I consider NASCAR drivers athletes but I dare say that IndyCar and F1 require a more athletic (is that the right word) driver than NASCAR and other forms of motor sport. Though I think endurance racing (Le Mans, 24 Hours of Daytona, etc etc) are a real special breed of drivers.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:44 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
But are Nascar drivers and Golfers athletes?
Anyone can drive a car and pee into a bag. Do you have to be in some mild form of good shape to sit that long, yes.
Golfers walk 100% of the time. Doesn't take an athlete to do that, again, just someone in a mild form of good shape.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:46 am to PrimeTime Money
hand eye coordination and reflexes are big elements in driving.
therefore it is a sport.
I guarandamntee you that golf is a sport.
Watch the analysis of Tiger's swing and why he is not a factor in Vegas odds to win the Open Championship of the world. His body is breaking down.
Maybe he took HGH like that Fijian surely did. Maybe he took steroids.
Its over now. Old. Erin. Knee. leg.
if you are not flexible, you cannot play golf well.
if you are flexible and strong, and have a great touch, and the brains to calculate wind and green speed, you have a better chance.
therefore it is a sport.
I guarandamntee you that golf is a sport.
Watch the analysis of Tiger's swing and why he is not a factor in Vegas odds to win the Open Championship of the world. His body is breaking down.
Maybe he took HGH like that Fijian surely did. Maybe he took steroids.
Its over now. Old. Erin. Knee. leg.
if you are not flexible, you cannot play golf well.
if you are flexible and strong, and have a great touch, and the brains to calculate wind and green speed, you have a better chance.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:56 am to CelticDog
quote:I'm confused... why are people in this thread acting like I said auto racing and golf aren't sports?
hand eye coordination and reflexes are big elements in driving. therefore it is a sport. I guarandamntee you that golf is a sport.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 11:02 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
But are Nascar drivers and Golfers athletes?
Posted on 4/10/16 at 11:53 am to PrimeTime Money
I'll give you that golfers are much more of an athlete than a Nascar driver
Posted on 4/10/16 at 11:54 am to kywildcatfanone
quote:what the frick is this shite dude?
Golfers walk 100% of the time. Doesn't take an athlete to do that, again, just someone in a mild form of good shape
Posted on 4/10/16 at 12:08 pm to Bama and Beer
This entire thread is simply ridiculous.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 12:37 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:
Anyone can drive a car and pee into a bag. Do you have to be in some mild form of good shape to sit that long, yes.
F1 drivers experience about 2G under acceleration and 5G under braking, and that's just the longitundal G forces.
If the car's in a high downforce setup they can pull 3-3.5G laterally in high speed corners.
Let's just say you or I were able to hop in Mercedes's current F1 car and drive the thing balls-out on a high downforce track (and we aren't, not even close).
After 5 laps, 10 laps max, we literally wouldn't be able to hold our heads up to see where the frick we were going because our neck muscles would be completely shot, along with the rest of our upper bodies.
Page 1 of 2
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News