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Is hockey as violent as football?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:54 am
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:54 am
If so, why don't we hear more about concussions/injuries?
How long until hockey players start filing lawsuits?
Is it because most hockey players are foreign and don't have a sense of entitlement that Americans have?
I find hockey to be more violent than football myself but the players never seem to complain, maybe this is because espn doesn't blow it up like for football, maybe at lower levels hockey is better at protecting players, what is your opinion?
How long until hockey players start filing lawsuits?
Is it because most hockey players are foreign and don't have a sense of entitlement that Americans have?
I find hockey to be more violent than football myself but the players never seem to complain, maybe this is because espn doesn't blow it up like for football, maybe at lower levels hockey is better at protecting players, what is your opinion?
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:59 am to tduecen
I think it may be that it's easier to monitor for potential concussion causing hits/injuries in hockey. Refs are always on the lookout for anything that looks close to intent to the head in the NHL. Football refs are getting there, but it's still hard to monitor because even the most natural type of hits can cause head damage for the person tackling/getting hit.
In hockey, most natural hits seem to be all body. Therefore it's easier to tell when they involve the head/possible concussion.
In hockey, most natural hits seem to be all body. Therefore it's easier to tell when they involve the head/possible concussion.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:27 am to tduecen
Hockey is not nearly as violent as football. No sport is or is even close.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:32 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Hockey is not nearly as violent as football. No sport is or is even close.
Soccer
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:38 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:39 am to tduecen
Because ESPN doesn't care about hockey. The NHL has made a lot of changes in the past few years to try and stop hits to the head.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:43 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Hockey is not nearly as violent as football. No sport is or is even close.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:44 am to tduecen
Also, there's usually just 2 types of injuries in hockey: upper and lower body. Teams don't like to go into more detail than that.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:53 am to tduecen
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why don't we hear more about concussions/injuries?
The speed of football players > the speed of hockey players. It's not a matter of toughness, it's a matter of the extra force football players can generate due to their athleticism and larger playing surface.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:54 am to Forkbeard3777
They have big hits, sure, but they are less frequent IMO.
It is a violent sport for sure, but not quite on the same level.
It is a violent sport for sure, but not quite on the same level.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:58 am to PurpGold 14-0
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The speed of football players > the speed of hockey players. It's not a matter of toughness, it's a matter of the extra force football players can generate due to their athleticism and larger playing surface
The speed of football players is most certainly not greater than the speed of hockey players. It is simply the nature and frequency of hits that make it more violent.
Athleticism also has nothing to do with it.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:59 am to PurpGold 14-0
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The speed of football players > the speed of hockey players
LINK? Pretty sure this is not a factual statement.
It's because there are hits every play in football, much more frequently than in hockey.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:15 am to PurpGold 14-0
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The speed of football players > the speed of hockey players
Really, now? You realize that you can skate a lot faster than you can run, right?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:19 am to VABuckeye
I would imagine hits in hockey are slightly less violent than football only because of traction. In football, you have cleats digging into the ground giving you all kinds of leverage. It seems like the skates on ice can reduce some of the force of the hit since your footing isn't nearly as good as having your feet dug in to the ground.
I stress the word slightly in that first sentence because hockey hits can certainly be vicious.
I stress the word slightly in that first sentence because hockey hits can certainly be vicious.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:24 am to PurpGold 14-0
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The speed of football players > the speed of hockey players.
You aren't familiar with hockey. Most players skate within the 21-24MPH range at top speed and have boards/glass as boundaries and a hard ice playing surface. The fastest football players max out at 20-22 MPH and that's usually open field once they get a head of steam.
Hockey has a ton of concussions and its a huge problem. Watch the Boogard documentary on the NY Times website it will scare the shite out of you when they show his brain damage.
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This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 9:03 am
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:25 am to TH03
I'll agree with the traction but you aren't banging your head or body off of ice or plexiglass in football either. Both are violent sports for sure.
The real answer is Aussie rules football. It's a wonder those guys aren't dying left and right when you look at what they put their bodies through.
The real answer is Aussie rules football. It's a wonder those guys aren't dying left and right when you look at what they put their bodies through.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:27 am to VABuckeye
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but you aren't banging your head or body off of ice or plexiglass in football either
True, that's like two hits in one basically. Plus, the boards aren't moving, so if you get hit into the glass, there's not much give, if at all. You're getting pretty well crushed in those instances.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:29 am to pvilleguru
Hockey has hits but doesnt require hits. The rules of football dictate someone has to get hit. Its more violent.
Anyone who says aussie rules/rugby need to understand that not having pads doesnt make it more violent. It makes it less violent. The hits are overwhelmingly less violent because the guy delivering them is unprotected.
I think the answer, given my definition of violence, is probably MMA, then Boxing, then Football.
Anyone who says aussie rules/rugby need to understand that not having pads doesnt make it more violent. It makes it less violent. The hits are overwhelmingly less violent because the guy delivering them is unprotected.
I think the answer, given my definition of violence, is probably MMA, then Boxing, then Football.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:29 am to PurpGold 14-0
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The speed of football players > the speed of hockey players.
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