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re: If Cavs Win, How Much Will GOAT Convo Change?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 6:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/28/15 at 6:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i will say that it will give lebron a legitimate "gotcha" point. he'll take a so-so team and not only win a title, but beat a historically good team (with home court advantage). that is something jordan never did (he won titles with the most talented team every time he won a title)
and is that because he's the most talented player or are you saying his roster was more loaded than the 91 Lakers,92 Blazers,93 Suns, 96 Sonics 97-98 Jazz
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 6:21 pm to SystemsGo
I knew he was GOAT when he played his first year. Ain't nothing changing, he been the damn goat since he started.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 6:21 pm to Good Ole Baw
Posted on 5/28/15 at 6:22 pm to Good Ole Baw
I like you
Posted on 5/28/15 at 6:35 pm to RonBurgundy
I'm gonna go out on a limb and says it's because the team was loaded. I know it's brought up all the time, but I don't think people pay any attention to it. 55 games. They won 55 games without him, swept the Cavs, and took the Knicks to game 7.
Now add Michael GOAT Jordan to that team. Dammit they're gonna win everything. Put Lebron on a similar team and they're winning everything as well.
Now add Michael GOAT Jordan to that team. Dammit they're gonna win everything. Put Lebron on a similar team and they're winning everything as well.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 6:56 pm to SystemsGo
Jordan would still have twice as many fmvp awards so...not much?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:01 pm to RonBurgundy
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his roster was more loaded than the 91 Lakers,92 Blazers,93 Suns, 96 Sonics 97-98 Jazz
absolutely.
91 Lakers had big names, but they were not the same team they were in the decade previous.
Pippen was also the 3rd or 4th best player in the NBA throughout this run as well.
The second 3 peat featured the most talented team ever.
Take Jordan off those teams and they still are title contenders. Not locks, but certainly in the upper echelon of talent in the league. I don't see how that is debatable.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:10 pm to JohnnyKilroy
The 91 Lakers had an old Magic...that's it. Worthy was injured for the finals and Kareem had already retired.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:17 pm to theunknownknight
I knew Worthy was injured. Forgot that Kareem had already retired.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:19 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Pippen was also the 3rd or 4th best player in the NBA throughout this run as well.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:22 pm to mattz1122
2nd in MVP voting once he had the team to himself in 94.
Pippen is criminally underrated on this board.
Pippen is criminally underrated on this board.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
And the year before he wasn't top 20 in Win Shares or PER. He was a top 20 player, but top 3-4 is silly outside of that one year ('93-94). He certainly wasn't better/more valuable than Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, Malone, Barkley and those guys. Penny and Hill at their best were better.
ETA -- There's no doubt that Wade >>> Pippen.
ETA -- There's no doubt that Wade >>> Pippen.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:37 pm to SystemsGo
You're so way ahead of everyone else man. How does it feel being a basketball hipster?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:54 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I knew Worthy was injured. Forgot that Kareem had already retired.
Magic' had aids. that probably slowed him down a bit.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:55 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Pippen is criminally underrated on this board.
Well not anymore. You just alleged he was the 4th or 5th best player in the league in 1991, which is just goddamn nonsense. on every conceivable level.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:56 pm to Good Ole Baw
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I knew he was GOAT when he played his first year. Ain't nothing changing, he been the damn goat since he started.
Mad hipsterish.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:56 pm to SystemsGo
Pippen is criminally overrated by the LeBron fanboys and few Kobe fanboys who still claim he's the GOAT. Either 17 year olds or people with terrible memories.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:26 pm to RonBurgundy
Without MJ they were a 55 win team that almost made the conference finals. That is freaking legit
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:29 pm to mattz1122
Pippen criminally overrated? Get the frick out. Dude led the Bulls to 55 wins, and his old arse led the Blazers to 59 wins. You just tipped your hand and showed your arse with that comment. Pippen is a top player of all time
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:36 pm to lsupride87
How much Coke did Pippen drink during halfimes in that 1993-94 season?
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 8:37 pm
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