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re: I have a World Cup question for the MSB soccer fans

Posted on 7/5/15 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by Kankles
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 7:51 pm to
Odell turned down the invite For the US soccer program at 14 years old.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 7:54 pm to
Women don't have rights in other countries. They are making sandwiches in the kitchen, not playing soccer.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 7:58 pm to
Que the athletes arguments

But it comes down the investment and coaching/player development
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 7:59 pm to
soccer is 7th on mens list of best athletes

women have 3 sports: basketball, softball, and soccer.


we should always be the best in those sport for women.


Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:03 pm to
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Odell turned down the invite For the US soccer program at 14 years old.


Plenty of crazy athletic kids don't pan out in soccer.

It's not a game where the pure athletes just dominate.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8584 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:08 pm to
And I got drubbed in the other thread for stating the obvious which has all been stated here. No reason the US Women should ever lose a soccer game given the advantages they enjoy.

Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:09 pm to
LINK

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For 39 years he has run a series of youth soccer camps in cities across the nation. In the beginning his camps were attended almost entirely by boys. But when the US women’s team won the 1999 World Cup, which was held in the US, something changed. The number of girls wanting to come to the camp boomed. Now enrolment at his camps is more than 50% female.

The reason is Title IX, a law passed in 1972 to provide educational equality to females. One of the law’s biggest impacts is in college sports, where universities had to stop handing the vast majority of their sports scholarships to males. Soccer was a cheap beneficiary – an easy sport to operate. And as more colleges offered soccer scholarships to women, more and more girls began to play.

“We hadn’t had that cultural bias of having a great men’s program in our country,” said Julie Foudy, a star on the US team that won the 1999 Women’s World Cup. “It takes a while to change a cultural mindset. We benefit here in the United States to have a history that wasn’t gender-biased.”
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8584 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

It's not a game where the pure athletes just dominate.


Sure, but it doesn't hurt to be able to run faster, jump higher, and just be a better overall athlete than everyone else on the field.
Posted by Hiphopanonymous
Baton rouge
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:12 pm to
- Total volume of people that choose soccer as their primary sport:
Although the US has 300+ million people, it only has about 9,000 registered soccer clubs. To compare, Germany has a population of 80 million, with about 26,000 registered soccer clubs. Even by these simple numbers it is clear that the US is about 3 times less soccer-dense than Germany.

Sports education budget, college/youth-level opportunities:
- America has one of the largest education budgets for sports, but the proportion that goes to soccer education is low compared to other primary sports. On the positive side, the US offers good college-level opportunities.

Pro league(s)
The US has pro leagues, but their financial and skill levels lag dramatically behind the most developed pro leagues in Europe. Consider that the salaries that the MLS can offer professional players are generally about 50 times lower than the top European leagues.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:13 pm to
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No reason the US Women should ever lose a soccer game given the advantages they enjoy.


Germany, Sweden, and England have also invested on a similar level. It's not like they're lining up against a bunch of third world countries.

That said, the U.S. leads all of them in number of World Cups now.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125418 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:15 pm to
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Sure, but it doesn't hurt to be able to run faster, jump higher, and just be a better overall athlete than everyone else on the field.


Things like vision and touch are natural and can not be taught. I don't care how good an athlete a person is.

I've seen teams full of kids who are clearly way better athletes have circles passed around them by far superior technical teams.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:17 pm to
The rest of the wold doesn't have Title IX.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125418 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:17 pm to
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Germany, Sweden, and England have also invested on a similar level. It's not like they're lining up against a bunch of third world countries.


It's nothing compared to the US

England does have a legit league now bc the teams are ran by the English premier league clubs.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:18 pm to
Except your sexist arse club
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

Odell turned down the invite For the US soccer program at 14 years old.
As he should have
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139848 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:22 pm to
I read a stat that the US has 2 mill women players France has less than 90k. That to me is telling.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125418 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:22 pm to
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Except your sexist arse club


We don't need a ladies side for a ffp write off
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8584 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

Things like vision and touch are natural and can not be taught. I don't care how good an athlete a person is.

I've seen teams full of kids who are clearly way better athletes have circles passed around them by far superior technical teams.


I hear you. It's the same thing with hockey, basketball, or many other sports. It's called game sense and though alot of it is natural it can also be developed with lots and lots of hours playing and practicing. It's like basketball players in the park or hockey players on the frozen ponds. No doubt if our best athletes grew up playing nothing but soccer they would develop into the best soccer players instead of their other chosen sports.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

Total volume of people that choose soccer as their primary sport:
Although the US has 300+ million people, it only has about 9,000 registered soccer clubs. To compare, Germany has a population of 80 million, with about 26,000 registered soccer clubs. Even by these simple numbers it is clear that the US is about 3 times less soccer-dense than Germany.

Sports education budget, college/youth-level opportunities:
- America has one of the largest education budgets for sports, but the proportion that goes to soccer education is low compared to other primary sports. On the positive side, the US offers good college-level opportunities.

Pro league(s)
The US has pro leagues, but their financial and skill levels lag dramatically behind the most developed pro leagues in Europe. Consider that the salaries that the MLS can offer professional players are generally about 50 times lower than the top European leagues.

As it should be
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 9:24 pm to
Are you anti-soccer because the short shorts trigger your homosexual tendencies? It's alright if it does, bro, but you don't have to be such a tryhard.
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