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re: I don't understand why there is so much support for Harbaugh/Michigan regarding cheating.

Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:27 am to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:27 am to
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Also may have beat UGA anyway if Harrison doesn’t get hurt

No. Kirby had already adjusted and had shut MHJ down for the better part of a quarter and a half before he got hurt.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 11:28 am
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
33514 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:29 am to
Yeah, you’re right. Stroud’s passing yards just magically fell off once MHJ got hurt.

Acting like limiting MHJ doesn’t result in other WRs having more success.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 11:30 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25893 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:29 am to
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Here’s the deal, before they hired this guy, Michigan averages losing AT LEAST 3 games a year. The year before, they lost 4 and there were rumblings that Michigan may be moving in a different direction from Harbaugh. Since they have hired Stallions, they have lost a grand total of 3 games in 3 years! They are averaging scoring over 6 more points a game and giving up 6 less points a game. That’s a 12 point swing. You are really telling me there was nothing gained from doing this?


Before they hired a guy that has been extremely successful everywhere he’s been?
I’m supposed to believe a guy that led San Diego to 11-1 records in year 2 and 3, led Stanford to 12-1, and went to 3 straight NFC championships, and he’s only doing good at one of the most storied universities in the country b/c he’s stealing signals?
Give me a fricking break.

Les Miles literally telegraphed every offensive play and we won a national championship and almost another while doing that. No I don’t think stealing signals makes that big of a difference. If you do your homework you know what the offense will do anyway most of the time.
And again, change your fricking signals more regularly.
Posted by CalLSU
Shreveport, la
Member since Feb 2009
799 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:07 pm to
If he is so good could you please explain this to me:
2015: 10-3
2016: 10-3
2017: 8-5
2018: 10-3
2019: 9-4
2020: 2-4
2021: 12-2
2022: 13-1
2023: 11-0
Anything stick out to you as strange? How many coaches you know go to a program and have a consistent 6 year stretch and then completely change their win/loss record in year 7-9? That doesn’t strike you as a little coincidental that his luck changes at the exact same time he gets Stallions and Stallions starts videoing other teams signals?
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35674 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:34 pm to
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Here’s the deal, before they hired this guy, Michigan averages losing AT LEAST 3 games a year. The year before, they lost 4 and there were rumblings that Michigan may be moving in a different direction from Harbaugh. Since they have hired Stallions, they have lost a grand total of 3 games in 3 years! They are averaging scoring over 6 more points a game and giving up 6 less points a game. That’s a 12 point swing. You are really telling me there was nothing gained from doing this?


This is retarded. Talent wins. Every team, every coach even the field because they do their due diligence and know what's coming.

As every coach has ever said, it's knowing what's coming and not being able to stop it. That separates the wheat from the chaff...talent.

It isn't knowing a play here or there, which everyone already knows, and may be misdirection from the opponent...so it's still just guesswork and guessing right a few plays a game doesn't beat talent if you're outmatched. Otherwise, Army would be #1 every year...pretty sure they have excellent Intel and the backing of the government.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 6:37 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29053 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:37 pm to
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It’s like being genuinely angry when an another team got NCAA infractions for impermissible benefits. You can laugh at them, but you know every damn team out there is doing it.


I always like to remind people that a D3 team had to vacate a NC because the head coach self reported letting a player drive his 20 year old Subaru a couple of times.

Didn’t think anything about it and said “crap” and turned it in with other non players saying he had leant it to them as well.

Didn’t matter. NC vacated.
Posted by CalLSU
Shreveport, la
Member since Feb 2009
799 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:45 pm to
I’m glad you mentioned talent. Here are Michigans recruiting classes during Harbaughs time at Michigan, per rivals:
2015: 50th
2016: 4th
2017: 4th
2018: 24th
2019: 10th
2020: 11th
2021: 10th
2022: 9th
2023: 18th.
So, by your own admission, you think it’s the talent, yet Rivals would actually prove to you that, based on rankings, they have averaged 13th in the past 6 years, which should be the majority of the players they currently have. If you look at what those top 5 classes did, they were averaging at least 3 losses/year. Yet somehow I should believe that, even though the recruiting services say they should be in the top 15 in actual on-field production, they somehow miraculously become a top team all while recruiting worse than they did when they were only able to win at most 10 games?
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