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I don't understand why there is so much support for Harbaugh/Michigan regarding cheating.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:51 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:51 am
Michigan probably cost someone a playoff spot last year as their cheating probably allowed them to win at least 1 game that they otherwise would have lost.
So you have fans of teams that may have been screwed out of a playoff spot by Michigan's cheating that are now rallying around Harbaugh/Michigan regarding said cheating.
Makes no sense to me.
So you have fans of teams that may have been screwed out of a playoff spot by Michigan's cheating that are now rallying around Harbaugh/Michigan regarding said cheating.
Makes no sense to me.
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:54 am to Tiger BTT
Who knows how many other sign stealers could have made the CFP
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:55 am to Jrv2damac
You don't think with the analyst staff bama has they don't have one or two in charge of stealing signs
Come on!
Come on!
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:57 am to nicholastiger
I feel like the public is pretty split on this being a nothingburger or worst thing ever. Michigan is getting what they deserve being so stupid about it, I guess.
The mgoblog guy is obviously butthurt.
The mgoblog guy is obviously butthurt.
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Michigan has been beset by wildly exaggerated claims of malfeasance based on Connor Stalions going great lengths to get things that you can get just by asking Rutgers. Jim Harbaugh has been suspended via a ludicrous legal theory that he can be punished for acts he did not commit or know about because he "embodies the university." Ohio State fans are weeping on Twitter that Ryan Day should be forgiven because Michigan's dastardly acts invalidate consecutive three-touchdown beatdowns. They are crossing out all the Ms in their tweets except one.
You are probably aware that this has been the most irritating, enraging, and insane month in the history of my—and likely your—tenure as a Michigan fan. The non-stop chirping from people who couldn't figure out how to change a lightbulb even if Stalions gave them detailed instructions has changed a joyous, national-championship-contending season into a descent into paranoia.
That fact that all of this is bullshite will never register with the people who do not already realize all of this is bullshite. Pretty much every single former player who isn't a rival has dismissed this as penny-ante crap, but you still have the media howlers howling about banning Michigan—Blake Corum and JJ McCarthy and Mike Sainristil and Mike Barrett—from the playoff.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:59 am to Tiger BTT
I don't "support" them, but I know that they're not doing anything that most others aren't doing. Difference is they're winning.
You do know that there are teams that are also cheating and winning 5-6 games a year, right? Cheating doesn't ensure that your team is going to be any good.
You do know that there are teams that are also cheating and winning 5-6 games a year, right? Cheating doesn't ensure that your team is going to be any good.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 11:00 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:02 am to Tiger BTT
All teams need is a big poster divided into four quadrants with a different picture in each quadrant. These cannot be deciphered.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:03 am to Tiger BTT
It’s like being genuinely angry when an another team got NCAA infractions for impermissible benefits. You can laugh at them, but you know every damn team out there is doing it.
I think “stealing” signs is a weak form of cheating any way. You still have to stop them.
I think “stealing” signs is a weak form of cheating any way. You still have to stop them.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:05 am to StringedInstruments
go 'stros
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:05 am to Tiger BTT
Even 4 years later Astros fans have to hear the cheaters bull shite, but nothing said about Michigan's cheating. Completely shocked. 
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:06 am to nicholastiger
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You don't think with the analyst staff bama has they don't have one or two in charge of stealing signs Come on!
I don’t think Bama has someone go to LSU vs Miss State games to video both teams signals. I don’t think Bama sent a staffer to wear Grambling gear and stand on their sideline to video the LSU signals. I’m not sure Bama called Florida and said, “hey, we hope you guys beat UGA because we don’t want to play them. Here are their offensive signals.”
What happened last year when Michigan did not know the TCU signals? Don’t tell me it doesn’t make a huge difference in their defense.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 11:11 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:07 am to Tiger BTT
It’s just comical that they got busted for this whole operation. With a sea of “analysts “ and grad assistants you’d have all of the signals you need by the second half. Plus coaches can always call buddies on other staffs and get them from a simple phone call and save the trouble of sending someone there to video tape them
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:10 am to Tiger BTT
The whole thing is stupid. Just another dumb rule from a dumb ruling body called the NCAA.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:11 am to StringedInstruments
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I think “stealing” signs is a weak form of cheating any way. You still have to stop them.
Which is much easier to do when you know what play they are running.
Michigan is 24-1 in the Big Ten since the cheating started.
Prior to the cheating they were ready to run Harbaugh out of town.
Obviously it works, which is why they did it and why there is a rule against it.
People are confusing "stealing signs", which everyone attempts to do, with sending employees to the games of future opponents & video recording their signs to reverse engineer their signs.
It works, why do you think that there is a rule against it ?
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 11:13 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:17 am to Tiger BTT
Its a dumb rule. Why prohibit the scouting of opponents and then have exemptions like this. From the NCAA bylaws:
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11.6.1.1 Exception -- Same Event at the Same Site. An institutional staff member may scout future opponents also participating in the same event at the same site. (Revised: 1/11/94 effective 8/1/94, 10/28/97 effective 8/1/98, 1/19/13 effective 8/1/13, 9/19/13, 2/7/20, 6/30/21 effective 8/1/21)
11.6.1.2 Exception -- Conference or NCAA Championships. An institutional staff member may attend a contest in the institution's conference championship or an NCAA championship contest in which a future opponent participates (e.g., an opponent on the institution's spring nonchampionship-segment schedule participates in a fall conference or NCAA championship). (Adopted: 1/15/14, Revised: 2/7/20, 6/30/21 effective 8/1/21)
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:23 am to Tiger BTT
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Michigan is 24-1 in the Big Ten since the cheating started.
Harbaugh was 0-*6 against Ohio State before, and *2-0 after.
eVeRyOnE dOeS iT!!!!@#!!
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:25 am to Tiger BTT
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It works, why do you think that there is a rule against it ?
Before this whole thing I never knew it was against the rules to have scouts go to opponents games and I've always been under the impression that every team was sending someone to their future opponents games so that when game week for that opponent came around they had a compendium of information ready to go to use in preparation for said opponent. Obviously the head coach and assistants can't do it because they're busy with each week's game prep so I always thought it was GAs and other "shadow staff" that had these duties to compile as much data on future opponents as they could.
I guess I gave these coaching staffs too much credit. Obviously it's against the rules so I'm not against punishment for Michigan, but I have to admit that more than anything this kind of disappointed me that coaching staffs don't actually do this like I had always thought my whole life, like I just found out Santa isn't real again
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:26 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Harbaugh was 0-*6 against Ohio State before, and *2-0 after.
Didn't Harbaugh also have a losing record against Sparty before the cheating ?
Friggin Sparty
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:27 am to PaperTiger
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An institutional staff member may scout future opponents also participating in the same event at the same site.
How many football double headers have you ever seen when teams participate at the same event at the same site? I’ve never seen one and I e been around a while.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:28 am to Tiger BTT
Most people's opinion on this likely depends on how they feel about Michigan, honestly
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:28 am to VolSquatch
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Most people's opinion on this likely depends on how they feel about Michigan, honestly
I think it has more to do with their feelings about Ohio State.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 11:29 am
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