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re: How would Ted Williams do in today's game?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:02 am to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:02 am to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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After Williams died July 5, 2002, his body was taken by private jet to the company in Scottsdale, Ariz. There, Williams' body was separated from his head in a procedure called neuroseparation, according to the magazine.
The operation was completed and Williams' head and body were preserved separately. The head is stored in a steel can filled with liquid nitrogen. It has been shaved, drilled with holes and accidentally cracked 10 times, the magazine said. Williams' body stands upright in a 9-foot tall cylindrical steel tank, also filled with liquid nitrogen.
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Williams' eldest daughter, Bobby-Jo Williams Ferrell had fought against the process, saying that her dad had asked and requested in his will to be cremated and his ashes, scattered off the Florida coast.
Yet Williams' signature, along with John Henry and Claudia's had appeared at the bottom of handwritten note dated more than three years after the baseball star signed a will asking to be cremated.
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:32 am to Falco
That's not a job I would want. So how long will he remain frozen in the tank?
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 6:39 am
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:34 am to SmackoverHawg
Speaking of dumbass, if you don't think the game has evolved from mechanics to rules to equipment then you're a dumbass. Probably a young dumbass who doesn't remember reliever Bruce Sutter modernizing the split finger in the 80s (well after Ted Williams played).
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:49 am to 308
Didn't they shift him back then pretty regularly?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 8:00 am to Tiger Ugly
He would lead the league in hitting every year and hit 30-40 HR
Posted on 12/28/22 at 8:51 am to Falco
Maybe had the best eyes ever. He would hit over 300 in any era.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:10 am to 308
How would Einstein do in the science game today?
Elite people are elite.
Both Einstein and Ted Williams would likely succeed in today’s world and would’ve adapted.
Saying “how would Ted Williams react to a 92 mph fastball” is equivalent to saying Einstein didn’t know how to use a computer.
A better question is how would modern stars be 60 years ago with no steroids, dieticians, personal trainers, etc?
Elite people are elite.
Both Einstein and Ted Williams would likely succeed in today’s world and would’ve adapted.
Saying “how would Ted Williams react to a 92 mph fastball” is equivalent to saying Einstein didn’t know how to use a computer.
A better question is how would modern stars be 60 years ago with no steroids, dieticians, personal trainers, etc?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:11 am to Jack Ruby
quote:probably not
He'd be the best player in the game
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:32 am to foosball
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He never saw a 92 mph slider
the dude wrote an entire book based on hitting.
he broke down what his batting average would be for every baseball sized dot in the strike zone.
he did that using 1960's era technology and training.
now imagine him having access to today's training, today's technology, etc.
now also imagine him playing in a league where pitching is drastically watered down compared to his era.
most of his career there was half as many teams in the AL as there are now.
and those teams mostly used 4 man rotations instead of the 5 used today
8 teams x 4 pitchers = 32
15 teams x 5 pitchers = 75
meaning in today's game he'd get a LOT more opportunities to feast on the types of arms that would never have even made a roster in his era.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:36 am to Nutriaitch
People don’t use logic in these discussions. They picture the player from 60 years ago being teleported into the modern world as-is.
They don’t picture him having access to modern technology, diet, training etc.
Sure, some older players would not succeed today. Just as some players today would not succeed in other eras.
They don’t picture him having access to modern technology, diet, training etc.
Sure, some older players would not succeed today. Just as some players today would not succeed in other eras.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:06 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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They picture the player from 60 years ago being teleported into the modern world as-is.
from the movie "Cobb"
Louis Prima: With all the great players playing ball right now, how well do you think you would do against today's pitchers?
Ty Cobb: Well, I figure against today's pitchers I'd only probably hit about .290
Louis Prima: .290? Well that's amazing, because you batted over .400 a... a whole bunch of times. Now tell us all, we'd all like to know, why do you think you'd only hit .290?
Ty Cobb: Well, I'm 72 fricking years old you ignorant son of a bitch.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:11 am to Bjorn Cyborg
People overlook some basic things. The lighting for night games is worlds better than it was 70 years ago. And while the balls during Williams' era were markedly better than earlier in the century, they weren't the bright, pristine balls of today that get replaced if they so much as touch the dirt.
Also, the mound has been lowered since Ted's day, making it easier on the hitters.
I think Teddy Ballgame would do okay...
Also, the mound has been lowered since Ted's day, making it easier on the hitters.
I think Teddy Ballgame would do okay...
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:35 pm to POTUS2024
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Many regard his 'Science of Hitting' to still be the single best resource on hitting ever made.
It's incredible. Bought a copy back in high school after reading this SI article which featured Ted, Wade Boggs and Don Mattingly sitting around talking about hitting.
LINK
If you love hitting and respect those guys, this article from 1986 in an absolute must read,. Still have the tattered hard copy I carried around with me in high school.
Only regret is that they did not also include Tony Gwynn, who Ted absolutely loved.
As for Ted, yeah...he'd be incredible. Assuming he came up today with his hand/eye coordination and desire matched with today's training and tech. Keep in mind the guy was basically the first to watch film of opposing pitchers and would chart them before most were doing anything like that. He was fanatical about the process.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:45 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Keep in mind the guy was basically the first to watch film of opposing pitchers and would chart them before most were doing anything like that. He was fanatical about the process.
that's what i was saying too.
give him all the info available today (spin rates, breaking distance and angles, super slow mo in 4K, etc. plus what we now know about launch angles, back spin, etc.) and I guarantee you he would be one of the best hitters in the game today.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:48 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Only regret is that they did not also include Tony Gwynn, who Ted absolutely loved.
looks like it was during Spring training.
Yanks and Red Sox in southern Florida, but the Padres would have been in Arizona.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:52 pm to foosball
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He never saw a 92 mph slider
He was such a student of hitting (obsessed) Tony Gwynn among others were in awe of him despite being generations apart.
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Ted Williams is claimed to have had eyesight close to 20/10, which is roughly the limit of the human eye for visual acuity. This helped him advance in his career as a renowned jet pilot
If I had to pick one player in MLB history that could dominate any era...it would be Ted Williams.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:56 pm to Nutriaitch
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now also imagine him playing in a league where pitching is drastically watered down compared to his era.
most of his career there was half as many teams in the AL as there are now.
and those teams mostly used 4 man rotations instead of the 5 used today
8 teams x 4 pitchers = 32
15 teams x 5 pitchers = 75
While I agree Ted Williams would be great in this era, this is a ridiculous argument.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:08 pm to foosball
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He never saw a 92 mph slider
Great hitters are great hitters because they punish mistakes.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:32 pm to POTUS2024
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Bob Feller threw over 100mph.
Yeah and his offspeed stuff was a joke compared to todays pitchers which is my point
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