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re: How would Ted Williams do in today's game?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:42 pm to Nutriaitch
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:42 pm to Nutriaitch
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meaning in today's game he'd get a LOT more opportunities to feast on the types of arms that would never have even made a roster in his era.
Current analytics have changed the game… how would Ted Williams do in the three true outcomes era? Nearly every pitcher now has stuff that would make them an all star back in the day
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:06 pm to chalmetteowl
Williams was ahead of his time.
He was a 3 outcome guy. He led the AL in walks 8 times. Umps would tell young catchers that complained about a pitch call that Mr Williams will tell you when it's a strike.
He NEVER had a check swing in his career.
The shift that was so popular that they had to outlaw it was first created by Lou Boudreau of the Indians to defend against Ted. And it didn't change his philosophy at all.
He was a 3 outcome guy. He led the AL in walks 8 times. Umps would tell young catchers that complained about a pitch call that Mr Williams will tell you when it's a strike.
He NEVER had a check swing in his career.
The shift that was so popular that they had to outlaw it was first created by Lou Boudreau of the Indians to defend against Ted. And it didn't change his philosophy at all.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:34 pm to foosball
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Yeah and his offspeed stuff was a joke compared to todays pitchers which is my point
This is not true.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:42 pm to wahoocs
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He NEVER had a check swing in his career.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 3:43 pm to foosball
Feller had a nasty curve
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:29 pm to foosball
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Yeah and his offspeed stuff was a joke compared to todays pitchers which is my point
And a modern day Ted Williams would’ve spent his entire life hitting “today’s pitchers”
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:38 pm to brgfather129
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I know it sounds ridiculous, but there’s not a person dead or alive who ever saw it or remember anyone who said they witnessed it
It has been a topic of conversation. I’ve read and watched everything there is on Ted Williams, and it has been discussed
Ted says he never checked his swing and challenged anyone to show or recall to him if he ever did. He played from ‘39-‘60 and was not liked by the press
Not one writer has said anything to deny his claim
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:29 pm to wahoocs
Baseball is as close to an anachronism as there is in sports. I think you could take any star from another era and they would do fine playing today. Can’t really say that about other sports.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:34 pm to 308
He's be the best hitter in baseball.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 8:22 pm to wahoocs
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I know it sounds ridiculous
Because it is.
He had nearly 10k plate appearances in his career. There is zero chance some pitcher didn't make one pitch out of all those pitches he saw that caused him to check his swing. It's absurd.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:03 pm to 308
Kyle Tucker is a Ted Williams clone with his swing
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:12 pm to brgfather129
When he committed, he committed
I mean dude, c’mon
Ya think in 17 years of professional baseball if there were one time a pitcher made him flinch, he wouldn’t have claimed it?
He either pulled the trigger or didn’t
It was one of many things that set him apart. I’m sure there were pitches he regretted swinging at
I mean dude, c’mon
Ya think in 17 years of professional baseball if there were one time a pitcher made him flinch, he wouldn’t have claimed it?
He either pulled the trigger or didn’t
It was one of many things that set him apart. I’m sure there were pitches he regretted swinging at
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:17 pm to brgfather129
All the pitchers he called the dumbest people on Earth, all the writers he pissed off, all the managers he played against, and every teammate he had.
Not one can recall Ted checking his swing
Not one time. And Ted himself says he never did.
I’m sure you know better.
Not one can recall Ted checking his swing
Not one time. And Ted himself says he never did.
I’m sure you know better.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:20 pm to coondaddy21
Yes
Analytically, Tucker’s swing is the closest to Ted’s
Astros fans have called him Ted since he was called up. Bagwell didn’t like it
Analytically, Tucker’s swing is the closest to Ted’s
Astros fans have called him Ted since he was called up. Bagwell didn’t like it
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:25 pm to wahoocs
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I’m sure you know better.
I do.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:37 pm to brgfather129
Who was the pitcher?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:40 pm to wahoocs
Ol' Smoke McGillicuddy
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:48 pm to brgfather129
There have been skeptics. I was one of them, just like you.
It’s not like somebody came to this revelation recently.
It was talked about in the ‘70s. Don’t you think someone wanted so bad to say it happened. All those opposing players, writers, and teammates. What about Yankees fans?
It obviously never happened
It’s not like somebody came to this revelation recently.
It was talked about in the ‘70s. Don’t you think someone wanted so bad to say it happened. All those opposing players, writers, and teammates. What about Yankees fans?
It obviously never happened
Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:10 pm to 308
He’d be a starter in CUSA. That’s about it.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:19 pm to wahoocs
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Don’t you think someone wanted so bad to say it happened.
No, because it is something totally irrelevant and no one would give enough of a shite to remember or brag about it. He still struck out 700 times in his career, no one is cumming their trousers because they got him to check his swing once.
Just using available statistics from the modern era, a super conservative estimate would be he checked his swing ~350 times over his career. Even if you believe players in his time checked their swing less frequently and saw fewer pitches/plate appearance, he still did it dozens of times at least.
It isn't fricking zero
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 10:20 pm
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