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How Ty Cobb was wrongly portrayed as a racist
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:35 pm
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Cobb enthusiastically supported the integration of major league baseball when he was asked about Jackie Robinson in 1952. He told The Sporting News, “The negro has the right to compete in sports and who’s to say they have not?”
He called Roy Campanella a “great” player, said Willie Mays was “the only player I’d pay money to see” and after Campanella’s crippling car accident, praised Dodgers owner Walter O’Malley for holding a candlelit tribute “for this fine man.”
Even back in the 1920s, Cobb would befriend Negro League ballplayers such as Detroit Stars infielder Bobby Robinson, who said “there wasn’t a hint of prejudice in Cobb’s attitude.”
One of several blacks employed by Cobb, Alex Rivers, named his son after the ballplayer and said, “I love the man.”
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:37 pm to Bench McElroy
Yeah but how WAS he wrongly portrayed, if so? Like how did that whole thing go down
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:38 pm to Bench McElroy
Wasn't everyone racist back then?
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:38 pm to wildtigercat93
Go to the link and read the article. It explains everything.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:40 pm to Bench McElroy
I am as lazy as Ty Cobb may or may not be racist
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:41 pm to Bench McElroy
Kind of only proves that that one story didn't happen.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 4:01 pm to wildtigercat93
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Yeah but how WAS he wrongly portrayed, if so? Like how did that whole thing go down
The guy who did is biography pretty much made the whole thing up to cash in on Ty Cobb's name.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 4:21 pm to Bench McElroy
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In 1908, among many other brawls Cobb participated in, he ignored an order from a black man laying asphalt in Detroit to stop walking, then after the two argued, Cobb started a vicious fistfight and was overheard to use the N-word against the road paver.
Today that behavior would certainly brand you as a racist, but racial slurs were commonplace then, even published in the papers.
Brilliant defense. I'll make sure this guy is on my PR team if I ever need to defend myself for tossing out racial slurs.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 6/16/15 at 4:25 pm to Bench McElroy
Who gives a damn? Everyone was racist. Even Abe Lincoln was racist.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 4:26 pm to Bench McElroy
Dude was racist let it go. It was the culture back then.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 4:36 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
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It was the culture back then.
You could call an Irishman a mick, an Italian a Dago, etc, in a friendly way, but I'm pretty sure the N-word was considered a different category, even then.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 4:39 pm to goldenbadger08
Says the guy with the racist Kermit sketch from Family Guy lol.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 5:05 pm to Bench McElroy
I've never heard of him being a racist.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 5:07 pm to Bench McElroy
That was an interesting article, but I thought the wildest part was the stuff about the American psychological association encouraging people to partake in fist fights. Also, the fact that Babe Ruth chased a heckling fan into the stands and when he couldn't find him challenged anyone nearby to a fight made me laugh pretty hard.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:42 pm to Bench McElroy
FIve myths about Ty Cobb
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5. He hated African Americans Ty had his prejudices toward minorities, having grown up in the south he inherited the plantation mentality that blacks had their place in society and it wasn’t the same as the place for whites. That’s deplorable, but it was essentially the de facto attitude among most whites in the south and many in America at the time. It’s important to note that Woodrow Wilson was president and had the exact same attitude toward minorities. It was an institutionalized concept in many ways. Cobb didn’t hate all blacks, however. He had several friends who were African American, and he helped many blacks in Georgia by paying their hospital bills and college tuition. He was an admirer of Jackie Robinson and Don Newcombe. Unfortunately, Cobb has been held up as the ultimate racist of the early 20th century, when many, many Americans, including many athletes, held his same views. Hall of Fame outfielder Tris Speaker, for example, was a member of the KKK. Cap Anson’s racist views towards blacks are credited by some historians as being one of the main reasons minorities were unable to integrate major league baseball sooner. I’m not apologizing for Cobb’s attitude toward minorities, nor for the handful of incidents in which he accosted African Americans, but it’s important to put them in context to better understand them Cobb will never be able to shake the black cloud that hangs over his character. It was largely formed in the last few months of his life and years after his death. But shedding light on some of these untruths can hopefully help resuscitate his legacy.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:47 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
My HS history teacher once said you "can't judge people from the past by today's standards".
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:50 pm to Marciano1
I tell my kids that all the time.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:07 pm to alajones
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he hated everyone
He isolated nearly everyone he came across, including the fans who watched him every home game. Fans revered his play and accepted his antics.
Watching the Ken Burns documentary on his life, it was sad how he lived his later years, scorn with almost no friends. But his attitude made him a ruthless worker, and a great player.
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