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How is betting on baseball worse than using steroids?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:39 pm
Apparently Bonds and Clemens will be going to the hall eventually, but Pete Rose will not.
I don't get it, the guy was a gambling addict. He bet on all games, and all teams. Some people try to make it out like he was actively sabotaging his team to win bets, but that's just not how a gambling addict thinks (and he never bet against the reds anyway).
Bud Selig is a holier-than-thou prick
I don't get it, the guy was a gambling addict. He bet on all games, and all teams. Some people try to make it out like he was actively sabotaging his team to win bets, but that's just not how a gambling addict thinks (and he never bet against the reds anyway).
Bud Selig is a holier-than-thou prick
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:40 pm to el duderino III
It's not
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:41 pm to el duderino III
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:41 pm to el duderino III
Wait is this a serious question?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:42 pm to el duderino III
Its about sending a message
Pete Rose should be in the hall but like i said i get why he is black balled
Pete Rose should be in the hall but like i said i get why he is black balled
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:42 pm to el duderino III
He was an acting manager betting on baseball games. Do you not see the potential damage here?
I agree and personally feel Pete should be in the HOF. But I also understand the stance.
I agree and personally feel Pete should be in the HOF. But I also understand the stance.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:45 pm to el duderino III
One argument would be that it really hurts the game in terms of fan support if people think its rigged because of managers or players betting on the games.
Meanwhile steroid usage really helped the game with all of the excitement generated by the home run chase and the ridiculous seasons guys like Sosa, Mcgwire, and bonds had.
of course the fallout after the steroid scandal hurt, but i think people are pretty much over that now. So I think discouraging betting by setting a precedent with Rose makes more sense.
Not that I agree with it. Hed be on my HOF ballot
Meanwhile steroid usage really helped the game with all of the excitement generated by the home run chase and the ridiculous seasons guys like Sosa, Mcgwire, and bonds had.
of course the fallout after the steroid scandal hurt, but i think people are pretty much over that now. So I think discouraging betting by setting a precedent with Rose makes more sense.
Not that I agree with it. Hed be on my HOF ballot
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:52 pm to el duderino III
Are y'all serious?
He was the manager of the team, and he was betting on his own games.
He was the manager of the team, and he was betting on his own games.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:57 pm to TigerintheNO
I guess they don't understand that it is posted in every professional clubhouse in big black block letters DO NOT BET ON BASEBALL
Pete Rose accepted his ban he knew he had done something illegal. I have no sympathy for him.
Pete Rose accepted his ban he knew he had done something illegal. I have no sympathy for him.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:59 pm to el duderino III
The biggest tragedy of them all is Shoeless Joe Jackson.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:04 pm to el duderino III
OP, the only "proof" that he did not bet against the Reds is his word. And he's been proven, over & over & over again, to be a liar. Each time to cover his arse. Which is what he was doing, again, when he claimed this. And I have never read anywhere that he was/is diagnosed as a gambling addict. Everyone that knew him back then did call him a POS, just look at all his known associates for proof of that.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:11 pm to Keltic Tiger
Everyone in baseball knows the the worst thing you can do is bet on baseball. It's the one thing you cannot do and if you do it you will get a lifetime ban. It's been that way for almost 100 years since the black sox scandal. Rose knew it and every player knows it.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:11 pm to sms151t
quote:
d) BETTING ON BALL GAMES. Any player, umpire, or club official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year.
Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.
RULE TO BE KEPT POSTED. A printed copy of this Rule shall be kept posted in each clubhouse.
Rose was in a MLB locker room for 24 years, then said frick it.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:17 pm to ehidal1
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I agree and personally feel Pete should be in the HOF. But I also understand the stance.
This.
The bottom line is that steroid users cheat to get ahead of other players, but they're quite obviously trying to be the best they can be. Gambling on baseball opens up the door to either directly or indirectly letting your gambling negatively affect the way you manage your team.
FWIW I think the roid users and Pete should both be in the HOF, but I definitely understand why the writers and commissioners view gambling worse than roids.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:27 pm to el duderino III
Gambling predates steroids by a long time. Just read about what the Black Sox scandal did to the game a long time ago.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:37 pm to el duderino III
frick Pete rose , if shoeless joe ain't in, cheating Pete ain't in..
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:47 pm to el duderino III
if you lose enough money, guys threaten your kids and mom and make you agree to intentionally throw/lose games.
guys using PEDs did so to improve their chances of winning and to make more money by doing so well.
there, see, not so hard.
guys using PEDs did so to improve their chances of winning and to make more money by doing so well.
there, see, not so hard.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:43 pm to SCLibertarian
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The biggest tragedy of them all is Shoeless Joe Jackson.
And Buck Weaver. He hit .324 and never made an error.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:02 pm to el duderino III
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and he never bet against the reds anyway
I dont believe that for a second. If he is an addict like many here claim, he will do what it takes to win a bet.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:27 pm to el duderino III
Regardless of your thoughts on the morality of the offenses, betting on baseball was against the rules and carried a specific penalty of a lifetime ban. Steroid use didn't have that same penalty. Cheating on your wife is morally worse than stealing a candy bar, but one is against the law and the other isn't, it's just the way it is. I never understand why the discussion of steroid use gets equated to Pete Roses situation, they aren't the same at all
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 9:28 pm
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