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How far can Chip Kelly set back your team

Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:23 am
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:23 am
Let's apply this hypothetical to both College (just imagine him busting) and NFL (Philadelphia). Obviously, defense is defense and he doesn't meddle around with that.

However, his unique offensive philosophy requires a certain kind of players. In particular, at quarterback and the most crucial...the offensive line.

Is it easier to rebound in the NFL? What if these players have little trade value? You're really then baking on making some quality draft picks to fill these guys spots that aren't able to conform to your new offensive style.

I think, again, if he failed in college that it would take more work and time to fill a roster that's able to adapt to a different offensive philosophy. Maybe 3 to 4 years just to get a new system fully implemented and on it's feet? That's just scratching the surface too.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:24 am to
Kaepernick and Hyde will do very well in his system.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:26 am to
Kaep is big enough to be a consistent runner in his system.

If he gets some talent back on the teams think Chip could well there.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10396 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:44 am to
quote:

College


The dude was 46-7 and was ranked in the top 4 each of his last 3 years at Oregon. Stop.
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:49 am to
Wut? Failed in college? I guess being a perennial NC candidate is a failure.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:04 am to
quote:

his unique offensive philosophy requires a certain kind of players. In particular, at quarterback and the most crucial...the offensive line
What kind of players? Hard to answer your question without this knowledge.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 8:06 am
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:05 am to
Depends on how many black players are on the team when he arrives.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11348 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:05 am to
It seems like the only way Chip set Oregon back is that the new coach wasn't as good as him.

The idea that he didn't care about defense is such a lazy narrative too. When you run as many plays and score as quick and often as they did, you are going to give up points and yards, but on a per play basis they had a pretty damn good D for Oregon.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10941 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:06 am to
He'll end up back in college ball somewhere where he can obsess and run his fiefdom in relative peace.

Places like USC, Notre Dame and Texas aren't even a good fit due to the politics.. He's a football savant.
Posted by circlerebel17
Member since Oct 2014
473 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:26 am to
Honestly I am so sick of the 49ers organization
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:27 am to
quote:


The dude was 46-7 and was ranked in the top 4 each of his last 3 years at Oregon. Stop.

quote:


hypothetical to both College (just imagine him busting)
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Texas aren't even a good fit due to the politics.. He's a football savant.


He was the one I was hoping we'd make a push for next year. Now, I'm looking at Herman.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66948 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:36 am to
I hate the niners but if those douche bags can put their egos aside and let chip coach and if chip can put his weird personality aside and let Baalke shop for the groceries, it could work well. Those are big IFs, but people learn and evolve so let's see what happens.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 9:37 am
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14817 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:24 am to
Texas fan? You'd kill for Chip Kelly and you know it.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:01 pm to
Oregon's offensive line class averaged 6'6" 297 pounds this last fall. They could play in any system.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

I think, again, if he failed in college that it would take more work and time to fill a roster that's able to adapt to a different offensive philosophy. Maybe 3 to 4 years just to get a new system fully implemented and on it's feet? That's just scratching the surface too.


Chip likes zone run blockers and qbs that can ran - not athletes that can throw. His prototype at OL is Jake Fisher with the Bengals and his qb protype is Mariota. The only way the transition would be difficult is if he had a bunch of recruiting misses.

Most of Stanford's current OL was offered by Chip. Don't be stupid.


Posted by hbuc88
San Antonio
Member since Dec 2009
1174 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:43 pm to
Dumb
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132368 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:43 pm to
Charlie will get it done soon.
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