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Help settle a work debate, greatest heavyweight boxers

Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:06 pm
My co-worker says first overall is Ali followed by Lennox Lewis and Foreman. What is your top three? As I disagree
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 3:14 pm
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:09 pm to
Ali is the most overrated athlete of all-time
Posted by pleading the fifth
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:09 pm to
Dempsey
Ali
Tyson
Posted by DapperDan
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:10 pm to

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Posted by B1rdman15
The Office
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:11 pm to
Marciano
Joe Louis
Jack Johnson
Posted by buckboudreaux
west monroe
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:11 pm to
no one....I say no one ....could beat iron mike for the time he was on top.....I hate the fricker, but it is real
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:11 pm to
Ali was better at making people believe he was the best
Posted by B1rdman15
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:12 pm to
I would like to have seen what tyson would have become had he not become involved with some of the people he did business with.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Ali is the most overrated athlete of all-time


I lol'd. Hard.

Ali/Louis would be like 1A and 1B
Posted by ConwayTwizzle
Little Havana
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:12 pm to
Was around for all of them, and there was nobody badder than Tyson in his prime/thread.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:12 pm to
Lennox and Foreman shouldn't be in anyone's top 3. Ali, Joe Louis, and maybe Jack Johnson at 3.
Posted by braindeadboxer
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:12 pm to
Greatest career or greatest talent?

Career: Ali, Rocky Marciano, Jack Johnson/Joe Lewis

Talent: Ali, Tyson (although he wasted most of it, he had the talent hands down), Larry Holmes
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:13 pm to
Tyson has to be top 3
Posted by yellowtiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:14 pm to
one has to define "greatest." If you go by record, i would think it is Marciano---only undefeated heavyweight boxer----or the one with the most wins versus zero losses. on the other hand, i think "greatest" takes into account more than just record.

another thing to consider, is greatest mean at one particular time, or over a period of time?
Posted by braindeadboxer
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:15 pm to
I found it really difficult to make a top three list. Too many styles and eras to compare. How do you compare Marcianos undefeated career against someone in the 70's or 80's?
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:17 pm to
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Ali/Louis would be like 1A and 1B
I agree with this. People let their personal opinions of Ali cloud their judgement.

Joe Louis did get beat by a couple of white dudes though.


I never saw Ali in a fight, but I saw Tyson in many. He was merciless. There is a reason why Buster Douglas beating him is the greatest upset of all time.

I don't know what happened to him by 1995 but Evander Holyfield making him his bitch has tainted Tyson's legacy.
Posted by braindeadboxer
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:17 pm to
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Lennox and Foreman shouldn't be in anyone's top 3


I agree with this. Both had great careers, but aren't even close to top 3 material.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:18 pm to
Tyson had a legit shot of being the GOAT. RIP D'Amato
Posted by braindeadboxer
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:19 pm to
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I don't know what happened to him by 1995


Prison broke what little mental soundness he had.
Posted by braindeadboxer
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:19 pm to
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RIP D'Amato


Indeed. Amazing the difference one man in his corner made.
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