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Widowmaker
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re: Help settle a work debate, greatest heavyweight boxers

1 - Tyson (around the time he beat Spinks, he was unbeatable, and the best of any HW at any point in any of their respective careers.)

2- Ali

3- Louis


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RonBurgundy
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How can Tyson get any love when he (and the rest of that era) ducked Lewis? Then Lewis beats that arse and not legit?


Lewis>>>>anyone in his era.


Top 3
Joe Louis
Ali
Johnson/Lewis
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UFownstSECsince1950
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re: Help settle a work debate, greatest heavyweight boxers

Probably the greatest comedy of all-time


That's lovely vat is that? velvet?


TigerintheNO
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re: Help settle a work debate, greatest heavyweight boxers
Joe Louis is #1 in my book,
followed in no order by Ali, Marciano, Holyfield, and Foreman.


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Or am I mis-remembering?


No you are not.


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UFownstSECsince1950
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Nope, he was basically gifted a title shot.....which he won

So that's the exact opposite of what we're talking about (creating a storyline by building up a fighter giving them tomato cans). Brock was given the title shot & won due to how terrible the HW division was at the time. Brock is a pretty terrible fighter fwiw


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How can Tyson get any love when he (and the rest of that era) ducked Lewis? Then Lewis beats that arse and not legit?
Tyson was done by the mid-90s when Evander was being his daddy. I'm just going with "when they were in their primes". And I watched many a Tyson fight and plenty of Lewis fights. I never saw anything resembling the way Tyson was mauling folks in the late 80's.



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How can Tyson get any love when he (and the rest of that era) ducked Lewis? Then Lewis beats that arse and not legit?


Lewis>>>>anyone in his era.


Top 3
Joe Louis
Ali
Johnson/Lewis

thank you. Somebody else giving LL some credit finally


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braindeadboxer
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UFownstSECsince1950


Don't get the idea that I'm disrespecting UFC and MMA in general. I train with several MMA guys and know its a tough business. I just see the potential for it to happen. And I'm certainly no disputing the bad rap my sport has.


alajones
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Brock is a pretty terrible fighter fwiw
And it showed eventually. He only wound up fighting like 7 times or something right? I know he had a bad health issue, but it was clear if a fighter could outlast him bulldogging him and actually use some MMA moves, he had a good shot.

It isn't like Lesner had no skills though; he was an NCAA champion wrestler, once again IIRC.


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Widowmaker
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Let's get something straight: Tyson, after he got out of prison, was a totally different (inferior)fighter. He had no discipline, he as a raging animal, and the boxers he faced (w/ the exception of Holyfield) were losing to him due to pure fear and intimidation. Tyson's skills were nowhere near what they were during the mid/late-80s.

You put mid/late 80s Tyson vs. Lennox Lewis and Tyson would've KO'd him, no doubt in my mind.


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Image: http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsJ/8921-3729.jpg


So you see, my son, there is a very fine line between love and nausea.




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Ali is the most overrated athlete of all-time





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alajones
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I don't think there can ever be another boxing discussion ever again without referencing Coming to America.


Thank you 80's Eddie Murphy.


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UFownstSECsince1950
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No doubt the potential is there, especially when 1 small group has all the power.

Honestly, it'd be better for the UFC to actually do this to some extent. This is a current problem where it's hard to build up a big name in the sport b/c it's almost impossible to win 10+ straight. This is something that is hurting tUFC, but that is why they are making it about the league/sport and not so much the individuals. Dana makes it known he will put the best against the very best....no sugar coating


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Vitali Klitschko in his career has never been down on the cards at any point in any fight

He's also the only heavyweight champion in history to have never been knocked down, knocked out or TKO'd. Sure he didn't fight in the strongest era but he is the most dominant boxer in history and head to head I'll take him over anyone.
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and there was nobody badder than Tyson in his prime/thread.


Well Tyson would have to take out ALI within the 1st 4 rounds or ALI would wear his arse out by the 10th.


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I remember my great uncle before he died (who was a world ranked fighter way back when Sugar Ray Robinson was coming up) talking about Tyson.

He said similar to what others are saying on here. He basically said if "the sport of boxing" doesn't get the best of him, he'll be THE GREATEST. Said he's never seen an animal that was so quick and hit so hard.
Of course "the sport of boxing" turned out to be Don King and Tyson himself and we know how that went.

I used to spend hours talking to him with him telling me how boxing was way back when and how the mafia controlled the sport...... Definitely some interesting stuff.




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He's also the only heavyweight champion in history to have never been knocked down, knocked out or TKO'd.


This is admirable in any era against any caliber opponent. Even the greats typically get caught by that random arse punch they never see coming.


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ROUSTER


Would love to have sat down and talked with your uncle.


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