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re: Head referee for St. Paul's/ Mandeville game arrested in middle of game

Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:50 pm to
You are right, and it sounds like the refs ego was out if control also. When a person gets in a officers face and dares him to arrest him is only asking for trouble. Both parties should have acted with cooler heads, but they didn't

I have also been a HS ref and understand how tough that job is.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 4:54 pm
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:54 pm to
I've said it many times. Both were assholes. It was a pissing contest. Fault should be shared
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:58 pm to
I agree with you
Posted by arrakis
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:40 pm to
In 30+ years of officiating I've never heard of anything like what happened. That it got that far (regardless of who says what) is appalling.

I'm still surprised the game continued after the arrests. If my crew's WH was arrested and removed from the field during the game, to a man, we would walk off the field until the situation was resolved.



Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:47 pm to
I am surprised that someone from St Paul's or one of the Coaches didn't step in on this. No way this happens at Parkview, John Curtis, etc etc where you have an older Coach in control of the program. If the refs had walked LHSAA would have probably given both schools a loss.

If the cop is hired as security at an event, he is a security officer with a gun just like at the mall. He is being paid by St Paul's just like a campus cop, and is not on duty. Hence, he is not ever "in control" of the event, the Game Administrator and Head Official are and he can be ask to leave or thrown out just like any other employee.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:51 pm to
Any word on the 230 meeting?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:52 pm to
Nobody has posting anything yet. Could it be still ongoing?
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 6:11 pm to
It all depends on state law and who was paying the officer.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 6:13 pm to
Yeah, I agree.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 6:20 pm to
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Fault should be shared


When you assign fault, courts and arbitrators will look at motive and bias. The fact that the cop had a kid playing for Mandeville and he was protecting their fans at the detriment to the refs, really makes this case a slam dunk in the favor the refs. All signs point to the cops being the more culpable party here.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 6:27 pm
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:10 pm to
I have a tough time finding fault with any of the schools mentioned. I have worked at all three and had a positive experience at all three. Also, it's not the kid's fault his dad is apparently a dick.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:40 pm to
Actually in a court of law nothing you mentioned matters.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:48 pm to
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Actually in a court of law nothing you mentioned matters.


Only way this is getting to court is if the refs sue.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 7:48 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

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I'm still surprised the game continued after the arrests. If my crew's WH was arrested and removed from the field during the game, to a man, we would walk off the field until the situation was resolved.






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Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

I am surprised that someone from St Paul's or one of the Coaches didn't step in on this. No way this happens at Parkview, John Curtis, etc etc where you have an older Coach in control of the program. If the refs had walked LHSAA would have probably given both schools a loss.


Baker PBS game two years ago....refs gave RFP

When a baker coach could have been arrested for inciting a riot
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

I am surprised that someone from St Paul's or one of the Coaches didn't step in on this. No way this happens at Parkview, John Curtis, etc etc where you have an older Coach in control of the program. If the refs had walked LHSAA would have probably given both schools a loss.



There is no way someone from St. Paul's could have gotten involved with how fast this went down. It happened within a minute or 2. By the time you could tell what was going on, it was over. Can't physically fly across the field.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Only way this is getting to court is if the refs sue.


I am assuming the association has some kind of arbitration process or dispute process to determine culpability.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

There is no way someone from St. Paul's could have gotten involved with how fast this went down. It happened within a minute or 2. By the time you could tell what was going on, it was over. Can't physically fly across the field.



This. And lecompte was talking to his offense in a timeout so he had no idea what was going on either
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:40 pm to
LHSAA can strut a and make noise, but this is up to the prosecutor's office to proceed or not.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:43 pm to
Thanks Mr. LEO.
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