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re: Has their ever been a more overrated NBA player than Blake Griffin?

Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:09 am to
you wouldnt take George over harden right now?
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:13 am to
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What in hades? George and Paul over Harden? da frick?


Some players are elite on both ends of the floor.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:17 am to
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Has their ever been a more overrated NBA player than Blake Griffin?



That would be James Harden
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:17 am to
No Indeed. There's a reason coach Carlisle said harden is the hardest to guard player he's seen.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:20 am to
Speed you may need a refresher on what one of the top coaches in the league has to say about James...Someone who lives and breaths the game:


Rick Carlise: "He's the best driver I've ever seen."

Carlisle on Harden: "He’s the hardest player in the league to guard. He's almost impossible to deal with."

One more from Carlisle on Harden: "In the history of the game, I can’t think of a guy that is so difficult to guard."
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:22 am to
And some are so elite on one side of the floor that you'd take them over guys who may or may not be elite on both sides.

Ie Steph, Harden, Russ, KD
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23494 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:24 am to
boom, we are boys and all, going way back, and i get you're a rockets fan, but c'mon man...

Harden, on offense, is a wonder... on defense, he's a question mark...

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278186 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:25 am to
of all people to fall for coach speak
Posted by JW6
Member since Jul 2013
1569 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:25 am to
One side of the ball. Harden is unreal. But defensively he's bad. And shooting 40% from field and avg 5 TO a game. 2nd most in league.
He's 5 or 6 in league.

Lbj curry Westbrook durant all much better
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:27 am to
How many Rockets games have you watched vs only highlights? What if I told you he guarded Dirk last night in crunch time and caused him to miss 2 shots LATE in a one possession game?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:28 am to
From what I've seen Carlisle's always been a guy who has said what he feels, not the kind to use coachspeak.
This post was edited on 12/5/15 at 11:29 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:30 am to
Top 10 in Defensive win shares only a season ago:


Defensive Win Shares
1. DeAndre Jordan ? LAC 5.4
2. Draymond Green ? GSW 5.2
3. Marc Gasol ? MEM 4.7
4. Tim Duncan ? SAS 4.7
5. Pau Gasol ? CHI 4.4
6. Kawhi Leonard ? SAS 4.4
7. Paul Millsap ? ATL 4.3
8. Andre Drummond ? DET 4.3
9. Rudy Gobert ? UTA 4.3
10. James Harden ? HOU 4.2
11. Nerlens Noel ? PHI 4.2

Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17097 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:33 am to
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How many Rockets games have you watched vs only highlights? What if I told you he guarded Dirk last night in crunch time and caused him to miss 2 shots LATE in a one possession game?


Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:58 am to
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Los Angeles, CA
congrats on the move, glad to see you're doing well
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17097 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:04 pm to
<3
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7444 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:35 pm to
U dum

Best player on that team. Super improved in the last couple years.
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