re: Has Lebron ever been accused of anything nefarious off the court?

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Larry Hughes averaged 20+ before he went to the Cavs and was a borderline all-star. That is a great player to me. I listed over a dozen examples and you cherry picked 2 guys. Even the guys debating the point, started by acknowledging that is was true.

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OK here is your full list:

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Larry Hughes, Eric Snow, Ben Wallace, Wally World, Shaq, Mo Williams, Antwan Jamison, the guys in Miami, K. Love.. all highly productive players whose numbers tumbled while playing with Lebron..

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You include some good to average players (Snow, Hughes, Wally), some good players (Mo, Jamison), a player that was always bad offensively (Wallace), a great player that was well past his great years (Shaq), and some legitimately great players (Big 3 players). You presented then all as "great" though; that's just ridiculous.

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The big 3 all admitted that they did it.

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Heck, Lebron even violated this summer, by calling Love before he was traded to recruit him. Love said it during his press conference.

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Show me where in the rules that it says the players themselves cannot discuss future plans with each other.

In fact, this is from your link.

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But NBA commissioner David Stern said during a July 12 news conference in Las Vegas that players on different teams who discuss playing together, under current league rules, is generally "not tampering or collusion that is prohibited."

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Stern, however, maintains that there is a considerable difference between player-to-player contact -- even before free agency officially began July 1 -- and contact between team officials with players under contract or their representatives. The league's anti-tampering rules were conceived largely with teams and their employees in mind as opposed to players.

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