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Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:13 am to OneMoreTime
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I think Notre dame is considered power 5.
I just throw the rankings into google sheets real quick and left the independents. They are shite anyway.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:14 am to Dire Wolf
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"There is absolutely no ability for us (teams in the Group of 5) to be in that national title conversation," Frazier said. "That's just reality.
Correct, and with good reason. Going 12-0 through a MAC schedule is nice but it doesn't put you shoulder to shoulder with teams going 12-0 or 11-1 in the SEC/Big10/Pac10/whatever. That is reality. Now, as for what we can/should do about it....I don't really know. And I understand their frustation, it's gotta be a hopeless feeling. But you don't deserve a chance to be the NATIONAL CHAMPION simply by beating a schedule of teams that would go no better than 7-5 in a real league.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:15 am to Dire Wolf
Would for sure watch
Would be a nice change of pace from shitty bowl games
Would be a nice change of pace from shitty bowl games
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:16 am to The Sad Banana
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Can someone explain to me what "Group of 5" means?
Every conference outside of the SEC, Big10, Pac12, Big12, and ACC
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:28 am to Dire Wolf
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"There is absolutely no ability for us (teams in the Group of 5) to be in that national title conversation,"
While I understand the root of his argument, Houston would probably be in the playoff if they ran the table this year. So, this "absolutely no ability to be in the NC conversation" statement is incorrect.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:31 am to TheChosenOne
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Houston would probably be in the playoff if they ran the table this year. So, this "absolutely no ability to be in the NC conversation" statement is incorrect.
The AAC was pretty good this year before their coaching staffs got raided and Houston hit a jackpot in OOC with Lamer Jackson
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:33 am to WG_Dawg
Utah vs Alabama says hello
Boise St says hello
Don't act like P5 just rolls over the smaller schools ever time and it isn't worth playing the game. It is complete BS because of money, and that's it, money.
I am against the G5 playoff solely because it separates the big money schools. There aren't enough P5 teams to run a full schedule, and G5s should demand more for a money game because of the lack of other schools.
But it won't go that way, because of money.
Western Michigan is terrible and played no one on their schedule. Someone like Boise or WKU would be a better matchup.
Boise St says hello
Don't act like P5 just rolls over the smaller schools ever time and it isn't worth playing the game. It is complete BS because of money, and that's it, money.
I am against the G5 playoff solely because it separates the big money schools. There aren't enough P5 teams to run a full schedule, and G5s should demand more for a money game because of the lack of other schools.
But it won't go that way, because of money.
Western Michigan is terrible and played no one on their schedule. Someone like Boise or WKU would be a better matchup.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:38 am to Dire Wolf
quote:no that's retarded
I wish that the Power-5 could have a relegation system similar to European soccer.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:48 am to Bad Medicine
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no that's retarded
I am sick of the socialism of American sports rewarding crap teams.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:53 am to goldennugget
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And if they win will you deploy the same tired "well of course they can get up for one game" excuse?
It's not a "tired excuse". It's reality.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:08 am to Junky
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I am against the G5 playoff solely because it separates the big money schools. There aren't enough P5 teams to run a full schedule, and G5s should demand more for a money game because of the lack of other schools.
There is enough P5 teams, but the tune-up games would be gone.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:13 am to Dire Wolf
quote:This is a lie. Boise State has been a legitimate top-4 team before.
"There is absolutely no ability for us (teams in the Group of 5) to be in that national title conversation,"
Florida State once was beneath P5 status, but they, like Boise State, did what must be done: schedule tough teams, go on the road, and win.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:16 am to TH03
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:22 am to Dire Wolf
This is a great idea. I would watch it. Plus beating the G5 champ would be a big SOS boost to any P5 team that plays them
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:24 am to msutiger
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There is just as big a talent gap between the G5 and the FCS as is there is the P5 and G5
There is a talent gap between G5 and FCS. The gap between the G5 and P5 (excluding AL, LSU, OSU, and select others where talent is superior) is depth. It's why G5 vs P5 games are generally close for a half, before depth takes over as the game progresses.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:29 am to Dire Wolf
I don't get the frustration. If the playoffs were around since say 2000 I do believe Boise State and Tcu would have been multiple time contestants.
And I doubt that people would watch this if it happened
And I doubt that people would watch this if it happened
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:33 am to msutiger
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There is just as big a talent gap between the G5 and the FCS as is there is the P5 and G5
Then they'd win. What's the problem?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:37 am to AwesomeSauce
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There is a talent gap between G5 and FCS. The gap between the G5 and P5 (excluding AL, LSU, OSU, and select others where talent is superior) is depth. It's why G5 vs P5 games are generally close for a half, before depth takes over as the game progresses.
It has a lot to do with match up. Navy is going to dominate big 12 defenses that can't stop the run but really struggle against athletic defenses.
Good G-5 teams make up for their problems with scheme. It is why enjoyed AAC football so much this year. You had 6 or 7 good coaches playing with vastly different talent pools and scheming around them.
Temple, Tulsa, USF, navy and Houston all created tough matchups for each other just because everyone in that confrance has to create their own identity. Where most of the power-5 schools are recruiting from a similar demographic in their respective territory.
Houston=legit d-line and secondary
Navy=option
Tulsa=awesome shotgun running system
Temple= big up front and good line backers
Usf= qb and stud WR
All of those teams are going to a problem for the right mid level (even top tier) power-5 team
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 10:38 am
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:38 am to LittleRockHog501
This year's G5 darling, WMU, put North Carolina Central and Georgia Southern (5-7) on their schedule. No whining if that's what you do.
Teams like Alabama can schedule games like this because the rest of their schedule is always very tough. But, when you have eight MAC schools on the slate, you have work to do, and you need to lose the Sun Belt's number because scheduling them won't help you.
Teams like Alabama can schedule games like this because the rest of their schedule is always very tough. But, when you have eight MAC schools on the slate, you have work to do, and you need to lose the Sun Belt's number because scheduling them won't help you.
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