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re: Greatest QB to never win a Super Bowl?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:48 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:48 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Ok. I just said that it was the great defenses the Vikings had that led them to those SBS... and you turned it around and said Tark was a more important factor.... Now you are saying it's a team accomplishment???? Make up your mind...
Which one is it....
Which one is it....
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:50 pm to dukke v
Well Tark was the QB and the QB is the most important position on the field, the ARGUMENT is clearly the greatest QB not to win the SB
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:51 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Omg you are stupid......
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:53 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Not back then...... I doubt you were even alive back then.... but whatever stat boy......
Tark was a great QB... I watched him play during his career.... he was a scrambler and did a lot of great things.... and yes the eras were different between the two.....
But at the same time I guess you are gonna say that Jim Kelley is a better QB than Marino... am I right.??????
Tark was a great QB... I watched him play during his career.... he was a scrambler and did a lot of great things.... and yes the eras were different between the two.....
But at the same time I guess you are gonna say that Jim Kelley is a better QB than Marino... am I right.??????
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:54 pm to dukke v
Is there a more important position on the football field?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:57 pm to ThePTExperience1969
In today's game??? No.... but again it doesn't really matter...
Serious question... did you even see Tark play???? Or even Marino for that matter?????
Serious question... did you even see Tark play???? Or even Marino for that matter?????
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:10 pm to dukke v
I actually argued Marino bc Jim didn't play that long so composite overall stats would be unfair so I relied on averages and Dan was sacked less overall(despite playing longer, anomaly), more pass yds/game, higher career passer rating and better career pass int pct.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:22 pm to ThePTExperience1969
But Kelly LED Buffalo to FOUR SBS and Marino only one.... by your logic Kelly must be better.....
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:29 pm to RollTide1987
Undoubtedly Marino, but I think it's crazy Philip Rivers has never had at least one Super Bowl run.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:30 pm to dukke v
But he didn't set nor hold any records when he retired and threw a higher pct of ints than Marino. What distinguished Marino and Tarkenton is they were alarmingly proficient at compiling great QB numbers across the board, broke records and won: Marino's 3rd all-time in comebacks behind Brady and Manning, not Elway as the narrative always seems to promote. Kelly also doesn't hold the accolades Marino and Tarkenton held as well, no MVP awards.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:41 pm to ThePTExperience1969
But yet you have talked that winning is all that is important... IN THIS THREAD.....
You are very inconsistent with your debates no matter the sport...... I get it... you are a stat guy and nothing else.... and probably around 22ish....
What colors were the Cowboys vs Colts SB in 1970??? (Played in Jan of 1971...
You are very inconsistent with your debates no matter the sport...... I get it... you are a stat guy and nothing else.... and probably around 22ish....
What colors were the Cowboys vs Colts SB in 1970??? (Played in Jan of 1971...
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:47 pm to dukke v
I wasn't inconsistent: winning is an element in determining how great a QB is but it isn't the primary, determinant factor though. Otherwise, Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer would be considered among the greatest QBs ever. Stats also matter in evaluating a quarterback and frankly Dan was a better quarterback than Kelly was statistically, from an efficiency standpoint, AND he led the Dolphins to a Super Bowl. If Dan never led the Dolphins to any Super Bowls, then the Kelly argument would be stronger bc that fact indicates that Dan was incapable of leading teams to the Super Bowl whereas Kelly wasn't.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:53 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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So far ahead of his time. Lead the lead in passing one time.
quote:Nope. You've about covered it.
any more questions?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:56 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
And he broke all of Johnny Unitas' career passing records so that counts for something as well
Posted on 6/26/17 at 6:08 pm to dukke v
Also Cowboys blue unis, Colts white
Posted on 6/26/17 at 6:09 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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If Dan never led the Dolphins to any Super Bowls, then the Kelly argument would be stronger bc that fact indicates that Dan was incapable of leading teams to the Super Bowl whereas Kelly wasn't.
You STILL seem to think that there is NOTHING more important than the QB position...
I am still waiting for you to post stats of the defenses that Fouts and moon had compared to the defenses that Tark had......
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