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Greatest living owners in sports?

Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:50 am
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:50 am
All the great owners are dead.

Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:58 am to
This guy is great, but he's also the one who hired Krause, who made the famous "players don't win championships, organizations do" statement. And allowed Krause to run MJ into 2 early retirements.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:07 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:09 am to
jerry reinsdorf
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:12 am to
Krause was a great GM FWIW. He hired Phil, drafted Pippen, Grant and Kukoc, traded for Rodman, etc...... And he was right about organizations playing a critical role in winning championships. Just ask the Spurs or even the Warriors for that matter.

As for great owners, I would like to mention one owner who always seem to go under the radar. That would be Pat Bowlen. The Broncos have made six Super Bowls and have never had back to back losing seasons under his ownership. The Broncos have changed head coaches, quarterbacks and GMs over the years but two things have always remained a constant: Pat Bowlen and a winning product on the field.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:14 am to
Peter Holt.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:20 am to
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Krause was a great GM FWIW. He hired Phil, drafted Pippen, Grant and Kukoc, traded for Rodman, etc...... And he was right about organizations playing a critical role in winning championships. Just ask the Spurs or even the Warriors for that matter


Yet he's usually the last to get any credit for anything regarding that Bulls run. He let his pride get the best of him though.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:22 am to
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:23 am to
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And allowed Krause to run MJ into 2 early retirements.


Do you really think anyone could have made Jordan retire, quit, give up? He's as competitive as anyone ever.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:25 am to
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Krause was a great GM FWIW. He hired Phil, drafted Pippen, Grant and Kukoc, traded for Rodman, etc......


And he's also the one who ran Jordan, Jackson, Pippen and Grant off......
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:29 am to
Kraft
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:32 am to
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And he's also the one who ran Jordan, Jackson, Pippen and Grant off......


That didn't occur because he was inept. He just couldn't deal with getting none of the credit for their success. MJ/Phil Jackson openly disrespected the guy. Under those conditions I don't know that I could've dealt with it any better than he did.

Like I said, very good GM that let his pride get the best of him.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 10:34 am
Posted by Kenny Wu
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:32 am to
Mike Illitch
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60153 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:36 am to
Also it pains me to say as a Rockets fan, but Cubes is a great owner. They were one of the worst franchises in the NBA and they've been consistently good for a long time now, with one championship and one other finals appearance. Aside from Dirk they've done it with coaching and roster turnover
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:37 am to
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And he's also the one who ran Jordan, Jackson, Pippen and Grant off......


After they won six championships. It's not like the Bulls would have won more championships anyway. The Bulls were starting to go downhill by 1998. A mediocre Pacers took them to seven games and actually would have won the series if they had hit their free throws. Pippen, Rodman, and even Jordan were starting to look old. All of the Bulls left at the perfect time.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:53 am to
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That didn't occur because he was inept.


There is a fine line between being an egomaniacal a-hole, and inept.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:56 am to
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Do you really think anyone could have made Jordan retire, quit, give up? He's as competitive as anyone ever.


If you have to constantly argue and fight over contracts every year, and on top of that, have the GM trash you and your team. Making unpopular trades and basically telling you to suck it up because you are just a player, that is likely one of the main reasons Jordan retired after the second 3-peat.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:57 am to
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Like I said, very good GM that let his pride get the best of him.


Much more than that. He's Jerry Jones, but a much much bigger a-hole. And has rings.....
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:01 am to
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Much more than that. He's Jerry Jones, but a much much bigger a-hole. And has rings.....


There were plenty of a-holes in that organization to go around, MJ and Phil Jackson included. I'm not going to pin it all on Krause.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:06 am to
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All of the Bulls left at the perfect time.


Maybe so, but Krause was a constant thorn in their side, and was constantly undermining them.
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