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Grand Canyon U For Profit DI Athletics

Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:11 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40534 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:11 pm
Someone posted about GCU beating Houston on the rant. They aren't yet NCAA tournament eligible, but they are in the WAC and actually have a pretty good resume. (10-2, also beat SDSU) Dan Majerle is their coach. I'm pretty sure they actually pay Cox to air the games.

So basically, this school uses DI athletics as a marketing tool to commit its usual for-profit student loan schemes. These for-profit schools are the scum of the earth, preying on the most vulnerable.

Revenue generated by the athletic departments ends up in the hands of shareholders. Let's say Grand Canyon makes a Cinderella tournament run in 2018. Any one of us could financially benefit because of the team's run.

It just seems weird. Thoughts?

Posted by GeauxTGRZ
PTal
Member since Oct 2005
4768 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:19 pm to
Didn't nurse go there?

Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52795 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

this school uses DI athletics as a marketing tool



Is this unusual or something?
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:20 pm to
It does seem very odd.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:28 pm to
Thunder Dan was cold on NBA Jam
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17919 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:41 pm to
I just noticed them being ranked top 25 in my former sport... Googled them maybe 2 weeks ago. Seemed like a lot of foreign athletes in my sport, not highly uncommon... but they were slap full with them.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40138 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:13 am to
quote:

Someone posted about GCU beating Houston on the rant. They aren't yet NCAA tournament eligible, but they are in the WAC and actually have a pretty good resume. (10-2, also beat SDSU) Dan Majerle is their coach. I'm pretty sure they actually pay Cox to air the games.

So basically, this school uses DI athletics as a marketing tool to commit its usual for-profit student loan schemes. These for-profit schools are the scum of the earth, preying on the most vulnerable.

Revenue generated by the athletic departments ends up in the hands of shareholders. Let's say Grand Canyon makes a Cinderella tournament run in 2018. Any one of us could financially benefit because of the team's run.

It just seems weird. Thoughts?


1. Don't have a problem with it.
2. Being in the modern WAC is not a marketing tool.
3. They are in the process of becoming nonprofit again. LINK
4. Why do you care?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66443 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:49 am to
Grand Canyon is investing hard into their athletics.

For instance, their men's soccer coach was a very successful MLS coach with FC Dallas.

Phoenix is a great city too and easy to recruit to.

They are funding hard and will climb the sporting ladder quickly.

Their AD is pushing hard to become relevant.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 1:51 am
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39582 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:50 am to
The "odd" thing is the fact we mixed professional minor leagues with higher education in the first place.

Not that I'm complaining or anything
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69303 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:07 am to
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These for-profit schools are the scum of the earth, preying on the most vulnerable.
I have family members that work for one, asswipe. Come over here and tell these students, many of them folks that just performed military service, that they are prey.

Stop assuming that something is evil because it dares to make money. Profit-- the horror the horror!

Is the supermarket the scum of the earth? Is the clothing store? Is Microsoft?

Do you work for free? If not, are you then also the scum of the earth?
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 2:11 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55643 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:14 am to
Well, they are.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69303 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:21 am to
quote:

Well, they are.
Do you not realize that everything in your home right now, from the rug in your bathroom to the computer screen you are currently setting your eyes upon....was created by a for-profit institution?

Meanwhile, the government uses guns to extract money from your pocket which pays the salaries of public universities and I'm not supposed to be outraged about that?

You need to step out of your john oliver marxist bubble world and understand that profit is not a bad thing.

I can't believe this madness.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
11883 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 6:54 am to
Houston is not very good. Grand Canyon does have a nice win over San Diego St. We beat GCU 111-63 earlier this season. Watching that beating, I wonder how that team even won a game
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 6:55 am
Posted by redNation
In the Red
Member since May 2015
133 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 7:05 am to
If you do background research into the school they are different than most for profit schools (GCU started as a traditional brick and mortar university) and as said above they are currently in the plans to change that status due to the negative stigma surrounding "for profit" schools.

They are hoping that building a solid D1 athletic program will help legitimize the university, raise funds and help the school transition from a for profit university to a traditional university.

Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37281 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 7:30 am to
quote:

These for-profit schools are the scum of the earth, preying on the most vulnerable.


Not all for-profit schools are cut from the same cloth. GCU is a lot different than Corinthian Colleges.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8766 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:09 am to
The current WAC (basically just New Mexico State and a bunch of stupid kids) is pretty pathetic - Grand Canyon isn't the only member institution lacking accreditation, either.
Posted by redNation
In the Red
Member since May 2015
133 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Grand Canyon isn't the only member institution lacking accreditation, either.





GCU isn't lacking accreditation

Higher Learning Commision (Central States)

GCU Website
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 9:24 am
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:24 am to
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The current WAC (basically just New Mexico State and a bunch of stupid kids)


Don't disrespect the Texas-Rio Grande Valley Vaqueros.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8766 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:26 am to
It's not recognized by NCA.

Just because you say you are doesn't mean you are.
Posted by redNation
In the Red
Member since May 2015
133 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:28 am to
quote:

It's not recognized by NCA.



you might want to check the first link in my post/


This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 9:32 am
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