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re: Freeh report is out: "PSU showed 'total disregard' for Sandusky victims"

Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:48 am to
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Extremely telling, Freeh says, that janitors were afraid to say anything after witnessing rape because they thought they'd be fired.


Which explains a great deal about the McQueary situation as well.
Posted by Cold Pizza
Member since Sep 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:50 am to
Read my previous post. Ginger was on the verge of losing his job. He tells Paterno what he saw and ends up with a full time job. He leveraged a buttrape into a promotion.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38121 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:51 am to
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Sandusky is pathologically narsacistic (sp?) And now has nothing to lose. How long until he spills all the beans?


He never will
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38121 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:51 am to
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Which explains a great deal about the McQueary situation as well.


Really, really sad and disturbing
Posted by Cold Pizza
Member since Sep 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:51 am to
Why? Because he still loves the university?
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:52 am to
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Read my previous post. Ginger was on the verge of losing his job. He tells Paterno what he saw and ends up with a full time job. He leveraged a buttrape into a promotion.



Doesn't sound like he leveraged it. Sounds like he was bought off by JoePa.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38121 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:52 am to
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Read my previous post. Ginger was on the verge of losing his job. He tells Paterno what he saw and ends up with a full time job. He leveraged a buttrape into a promotion.


The good news is...he'll never coach again.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:53 am to
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Why? Because he still loves the university?


He's a kid who was born and raised in State College, played ball at Penn State, and had a job at Penn State. That's all he knows.

He'll never coach again, but he'll probably get on the lawsuit gravy train. Watch.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38121 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:53 am to
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Why? Because he still loves the university?


I just think he's so sick that he's convinced himself that he did nothing wrong...just my opinion.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:56 am to
BTW, today pretty much settles it for me regarding the "mysterious" disappearance of the DA who was investigating this situation.
Posted by biglil3
West Monroe
Member since Jan 2010
2049 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:57 am to
Didn't Coach K just come out defending Paterno?? Yeah, frick that ratface too...his credibility takes a hit IMO
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:59 am to
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BTW, today pretty much settles it for me regarding the "mysterious" disappearance of the DA who was investigating this situation.


I figured that Gricar disappeared over this, which is why he destroyed his PC.

The question was whether he killed himself, like his brother, or whether someone else whacked him.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:07 am to
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#Freeh: What's shocking is that the four of them, the most powerful at #PSU, made the decision to conceal


Freeh is covering for someone IMO. I think the big 4 are guilty as well, but he has singled them out and completely ignored the reports that BOT, who coincidentally hired him for this task, knew
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38121 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:07 am to
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Didn't Coach K just come out defending Paterno?? Yeah, frick that ratface too...his credibility takes a hit IMO


stop
Posted by biglil3
West Monroe
Member since Jan 2010
2049 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:09 am to
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bwallcubfan


Duke fan huh??
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50341 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:09 am to
Paterno apparently wrote a letter 7 months ago and said this in it.

"This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one."

The whole letter

quote:

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 10:10 am
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:10 am to
dunno if it has been posted yet but here is a letter posted on behalf of the student body
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Fellow Students,

This morning at 9 am, Judge Louis Freeh released the findings of his internal investigation of Penn State. The Penn State community demanded clarity and charged Judge Freeh with conducting a full investigation based upon the charges brought against former Coach Jerry Sandusky and other administrators in the fall. After more than 400 interviews over the course of eight months, the full report has finally been released to the public. As student leaders, we will do the best we can to ensure that our institution diligently reviews and considers the recommendations laid out in the Freeh report.

We encourage each of you to remain informed and review the full report online at thefreehreportonpsu.com. Regardless of the results or findings, remember that we students stand united as Penn State. We are an institution with 158 years of history, tradition, and service. It is certainly a unique time in our University’s history, but there has never been a more important time to remain Penn State. Never forget that we are 96,000 strong and remain bonded by our blue and white. The results of the investigation may leave us angry and shocked; but remember that WE the students will move the university forward from this situation. We are responsible for continuing the incredible legacy of Penn State that has been passed down to us.

Together, let us make the well-being of the victims and closure for all of those involved the top priority. We will never forget the victims, and continue to fight for victims of sexual abuse. Together, we can make an impact and continue the glory and mission of our extraordinary University. Never forget that as Penn Staters we are bonded by a common love of our alma mater — an ineffable love that is shared by no one else in the world.

The student leaders of the Pennsylvania State University sign this letter to show our unwavering support for all victims of abuse and our unity as a student body. We will help define the Penn State of tomorrow. WE ARE…and forever will be…PENN STATE!

Signed by:

Vincenzo Lizza, Courtney Lennartz, Scott Patterson, Kinjal Mathur, William Martin, William Doncsecz, Julianne Robbins, Ben Pugh, Kristin Carpenter, Tyler Doppelheuer, Maggie Quinn, TJ Bard , Amelia Ahnert, Jennifer Wolf, Patrick Kelly, Stephanie Zub, Kevin Horne, Ryan Brown, Mike McHugh, Robert Nellis, Steve Patrick, Matthew Shanes, Jessica Cunning, Sean Meadows, Cathy L. Rogers, Paul Ferrera, Kristie Winiarski, Ben Clark, Paige Blawas, Eric Quackenbush, Ernst Ntiamoah, Chandra Ulinfun
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38121 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:10 am to
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Duke fan huh??


complete opposite actually...UNC all day
Posted by LSUFanNTX
Seabrook, TX
Member since May 2005
9108 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:11 am to
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Bet the idiots protesting when JoePa got fired feel like real winners today


Cult members gonna cult.

Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:12 am to
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I hate the "don't punish the players" bull shite. If your boss embezzles money and the bank forecloses the business, you're gonna lose your job. Same here. Collateral damage sucks but that's just the way it is.


agreed. oh i have to transfer vs child rape. pretty sure the current players are not the victims.

i hope the penalties, fines/judgements that penn state has to pay are insurmountable.
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