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re: Former UFC fighter dies two days after KO
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:46 am to SabiDojo
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:46 am to SabiDojo
Yeah it was bad.
There were 3 knock downs in round 1.
Tim looked helpless out there. The 2nd knockdown was awful in round 1. The takedown (most likely a natural reaction) was sad to see.
This tragedy could have been avoided
There were 3 knock downs in round 1.
Tim looked helpless out there. The 2nd knockdown was awful in round 1. The takedown (most likely a natural reaction) was sad to see.
This tragedy could have been avoided
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:58 am to wildtigercat93
That guy looked like he had no business fighting period
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:08 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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The guy probably shouldn't have even been fighting. He had been knocked out a lot before this bout.
Yep. From the article:
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Hague (21-13) suffered eight career knockouts in MMA, including four within the past 22 months.
Each KO is essentially a concussion. I've got to believe that he was having problems but tried to keep them to himself so he could keep fighting. There's almost no way you can have that many concussions in a short period of time without some consequences.
The guy was a rented mule for superior fighters. Sadly, it cost him his life.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:05 am to mtntiger
Likely had a slow brain bleed, but if that was the case and they realized it, he could have been saved pretty easily.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:07 am to mtntiger
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including four within the past 22 months.
Should not even have had a license to fight
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:12 am to Kracka
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Should not even have had a license to fight
Hard to enforce with all the different licensing organizations and countries.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:18 am to theenemy
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Hard to enforce with all the different licensing organizations and countries.
They weren't fighting in the US?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:12 am to Kracka
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They weren't fighting in the US?
It was in Canada
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:52 am to lsucoonass
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That ref and tims cornermen need to go to trial.
Mixed martial artists/boxers can sustain life-threatening injuries at any time. Maybe they could've stopped this fight but any combat sports participant knows the risk.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:31 pm to LSUTANGERINE
That was ugly.
Pretty clear he wasn't able to protect himself from the first knockdown on.
Pretty clear he wasn't able to protect himself from the first knockdown on.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:36 pm to brgfather129
Thats the difference between MMA and boxing. In MMA you don't get knocked down often without the fight ending. Once you fall, your opponents jumps on top and most times the ref will be there stopping the fight.
In boxing, which you see so often, a fighter thats outclassed, gets knocked down over and over, but keeps getting back up for more. Over the course of 12 rounds they suffer trauma to the brain that adds up very quickly. Referees need to recognize when a fighter is out of their league and do the right thing and prevent them from being hurt.
In boxing, which you see so often, a fighter thats outclassed, gets knocked down over and over, but keeps getting back up for more. Over the course of 12 rounds they suffer trauma to the brain that adds up very quickly. Referees need to recognize when a fighter is out of their league and do the right thing and prevent them from being hurt.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:41 pm to Hmerly
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In boxing, which you see so often, a fighter thats outclassed, gets knocked down over and over, but keeps getting back up for more. Over the course of 12 rounds they suffer trauma to the brain that adds up very quickly. Referees need to recognize when a fighter is out of their league and do the right thing and prevent them from being hurt.
Max Kellerman talks about this a lot. Context matters.
If we're talking about a no-hoper and the guy has been put in there to lose, and he's obviously losing, then the right thing for the ref to do is to stop it once the outcome is clear.
However if it's a championship contest and the guy has been waiting his entire life for this moment, maybe you give that guy a little more lee-way to turn it around.
This obviously was the former and not the latter. I still don't think the refs or anyone should be held liable for what amounts to a judgment call. The fighter has primary responsibility for his own health.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:42 pm to Goldrush25
I cant believe we still alow boxing.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:31 pm to Goldrush25
No shite dude
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:33 pm to lsucoonass
Well, I was responding to the post where you said the ref and corner men need to be tried for something. I disagree.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:38 pm to Goldrush25
I would normally agree with you and maybe my initial view was a bit extreme.
But out of all the fights I've seen that's one of the worst I've seen in regards to the safety of the fighter due to the ref.
I don't know what Canada does in regards to clearing a boxer or fighter; maybe this will make more strict standards maybe not.
But out of all the fights I've seen that's one of the worst I've seen in regards to the safety of the fighter due to the ref.
I don't know what Canada does in regards to clearing a boxer or fighter; maybe this will make more strict standards maybe not.
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