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Football's best ever coaches
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:23 pm
Top 5 in reverse order
#5
Bill Walsh
Inventor of the West Coast offense, the single most important innovation in football in the last 30 years
Architect of team that won 5 Super Bowls in 14 years, including 9 NFC Championship Game appearances
Later in life returned as GM of the 49ers and quickly rebuilt the team into a playoff contender.
Super Bowl Champion 1981, 1984, 1988
#4
Tom Landry
Inventor of the 4-3 defense as well as the leading offensive mind of his day, Landry lead the expansion Cowboys to 7 Super Bowl or NFL Championship Games.
Super Bowl Champions 1971 and 1977
#3
Bill Belichick
first coach to effectively manage salary cap era to maintain championship contender year after year for 15+ seasons as well as the first coach to master the modern concept of changing a team's gameplan and identity on a week to week basis.
Record 9 Super Bowl appearances as a head or assistant coach
6 Super Bowl appearances as Head Coach
Super Bowl Champions 2001, 2003, 2004, 2014
#2
Knute Rockne
Despite living to just 43 years old, he managed to:
invent pre-snap shifts
first coach to effectively use the forward pass
first coach to use advanced substitution patterns
National Champions (Notre Dame): 1919, 1920, 1924, 1929, 1930
#1
Paul Brown
first coach to use game film to scout opponents
invented modern face mask
first coach to test players on their knowledge of a playbook
High School State Champions (2 schools): 1930, 1935, 1936, 1938, 1939, 1940
National Champion (Ohio State): 1942
AAFC Champions (Cleveland Browns): 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949
NFL Champions (Cleveland Browns): 1950, 1954, 1955
Honorable mentions: Vince Lombardi, Fielding Yost, Frank Leahy
#5
Bill Walsh
Inventor of the West Coast offense, the single most important innovation in football in the last 30 years
Architect of team that won 5 Super Bowls in 14 years, including 9 NFC Championship Game appearances
Later in life returned as GM of the 49ers and quickly rebuilt the team into a playoff contender.
Super Bowl Champion 1981, 1984, 1988
#4
Tom Landry
Inventor of the 4-3 defense as well as the leading offensive mind of his day, Landry lead the expansion Cowboys to 7 Super Bowl or NFL Championship Games.
Super Bowl Champions 1971 and 1977
#3
Bill Belichick
first coach to effectively manage salary cap era to maintain championship contender year after year for 15+ seasons as well as the first coach to master the modern concept of changing a team's gameplan and identity on a week to week basis.
Record 9 Super Bowl appearances as a head or assistant coach
6 Super Bowl appearances as Head Coach
Super Bowl Champions 2001, 2003, 2004, 2014
#2
Knute Rockne
Despite living to just 43 years old, he managed to:
invent pre-snap shifts
first coach to effectively use the forward pass
first coach to use advanced substitution patterns
National Champions (Notre Dame): 1919, 1920, 1924, 1929, 1930
#1
Paul Brown
first coach to use game film to scout opponents
invented modern face mask
first coach to test players on their knowledge of a playbook
High School State Champions (2 schools): 1930, 1935, 1936, 1938, 1939, 1940
National Champion (Ohio State): 1942
AAFC Champions (Cleveland Browns): 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949
NFL Champions (Cleveland Browns): 1950, 1954, 1955
Honorable mentions: Vince Lombardi, Fielding Yost, Frank Leahy
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You left off P.J. Fleck
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:27 pm to BCMCubs
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You left off P.J. Fleck
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:28 pm to Draconian Sanctions
No Coach O?
List is invalid.
List is invalid.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Joe Gibbs doesn't even get an honorable mention? He won 3 SBs with 3 different QBs. I don't know if any other coach has even done it with two.
Also. If they are throwing in college, wouldn't Saban or the Bear get a mention?
Also. If they are throwing in college, wouldn't Saban or the Bear get a mention?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:50 pm to brmark70816
In 10-15 years when he finally calls it quits, Saban will be on this list.
ETA: And as much as I fricking hate Alabama, not having Bear Bryant as even an honorable mention is dumb.
ETA: And as much as I fricking hate Alabama, not having Bear Bryant as even an honorable mention is dumb.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:52 pm to brmark70816
quote:
Joe Gibbs doesn't even get an honorable mention? He won 3 SBs with 3 different QBs. I don't know if any other coach has even done it with two.
Also. If they are throwing in college, wouldn't Saban or the Bear get a mention?
Gibbs was probably in the next tier
and while Bear and Saban are great winners, neither were innovators in the class of the top 5 and maybe not the 3 honorable mentions either.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
This guy must be mentioned;
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:03 pm to 91TIGER
if the list were 15 or 20 he would definitely make it
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
and while Bear and Saban are great winners, neither were innovators in the class of the top 5 and maybe not the 3 honorable mentions either.
Maybe not, but Bryant took other coaches' ideas and perfected them. Was also great at adapting to emerging trends.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:11 pm to pvilleguru
Nick Saban.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:12 pm to pvilleguru
quote:
Maybe not, but Bryant took other coaches' ideas and perfected them. Was also great at adapting to emerging trends.
Sure and if I was making a list of 10 or 15 those guys would definitely make it, but in my view the legacy you leave behind in terms of how you impacted the game as a whole is as much if not more significant than just the wins and losses, especially when you're splitting hairs between the best of the best of the best.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
J.T. Curtis
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Sure and if I was making a list of 10 or 15 those guys would definitely make it, but in my view the legacy you leave behind in terms of how you impacted the game as a whole is as much if not more significant than just the wins and losses, especially when you're splitting hairs between the best of the best of the best.
Then why don't you call it "Football's best ever innovators"?
"Best Ever Coaches" directly implies wins and losses.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Bill Walsh
Inventor of the West Coast offense, the single most important innovation in football in the last 30 years
Not arguing your list ,but Bill Walsh did not invent the West Coast Offense. Paul Brown did.
Bill Belichick also agrees:
" The West Coast Offense should be the 'Ohio River Offense' because it(West Coast) is Paul Browns Offense that Walsh took out there".
Walsh learned it while coaching under Paul Brown & tweaked it some at Browns urging, but.....
Throw in the rule changes to open up passing in the late 70's/ early 80's & the offense took off.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:24 pm to navy
quote:
Then why don't you call it "Football's best ever innovators"?
Because wins and losses matter too. That's why Chip Kelly isn't anywhere near this list
quote:
"Best Ever Coaches" directly implies wins and losses.
No it doesn't. If wins and losses were all I cared about I would have titled the thread "Footballs most successful coaches" or something like that and ranked it Bear then Lombardi then Saban
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:29 pm to sugar71
quote:
Not arguing your list ,but Bill Walsh did not invent the West Coast Offense. Paul Brown did.
Well #1 Brown and Walsh developed it together & Brown gave Walsh great deference, much more than any other assistant
#2 Walsh didn't just take the playbook with him to San Francisco, plug it in, and just start reeling off Super Bowls. He heavily modified the system he and Brown had developed & that is what was used in SF. Walsh was also an outstanding game manger and talent evaluator.
#3 Paul Brown is #1 on the list
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:29 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Why didn't you call it "most innovative" instead of "best"?
and while Bear and Saban are great winners,
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
How does Vince Lombardi not make the top 5?
Only coach to win three consecutive NFL championships
9-1 Playoff Record (Highest Playoff winning percentage of all-time)
And here's another mindboggling statistic. Every NFL coach who won at least four championships coached at least 22 years except for Guy Chamberlain who won his four championships in the 1920s when the NFL was in its infancy. Lombardi won five championships in 10 years. That's absolutely incredible. I don't think we'll ever see another coach who accomplishes so much in such a brief amount of time.
Only coach to win three consecutive NFL championships
9-1 Playoff Record (Highest Playoff winning percentage of all-time)
And here's another mindboggling statistic. Every NFL coach who won at least four championships coached at least 22 years except for Guy Chamberlain who won his four championships in the 1920s when the NFL was in its infancy. Lombardi won five championships in 10 years. That's absolutely incredible. I don't think we'll ever see another coach who accomplishes so much in such a brief amount of time.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:35 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:He didn't invent anything.
How does Vince Lombardi not make the top 5?
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