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re: Falcons fire defensive coordinator and defensive line coach
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:23 am to TigerBait1127
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:23 am to TigerBait1127
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Anyone who watched that defense during the season and came away with "still garbage all year" must have had their eyes closed.
They were a young defense that grew over the course of the year. Opportunistic and fast.
They were blowing people out offensively and defensively at the end of the year
Since week 10?
Not really, They played well against the Cardinals and Panthers sure but the Saints but up 473 yards on them and the Chiefs put up a ton too.
Please don't bring up the 49ers and Rams. The worst two offenses in the league. Please go look at what they did to other teams.
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:23 am to David Ricky
Crazy.
For the most part, they held up. If you're going to blame anyone, blame the GM for not building above average depth. That being said, 99 offensive plays including penalties will kill almost any defense.
For the most part, they held up. If you're going to blame anyone, blame the GM for not building above average depth. That being said, 99 offensive plays including penalties will kill almost any defense.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:24 am to bbrownso
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Well it didn't show in their points allowed average.
The Falcons gave up on average, 25.4 points. Only the Jets, Chargers, Browns, Saints, and 49ers gave up more.
They won a lot because they scored 33.8 points per game. 8+ ppg differential between points scored and points allowed for the Falcons.
But with shakeup on both the offensive and defensive sides of their coaching staff, some regression on both sides might really throw off their chances of making the playoffs next year.
People got excited when they shut down the 31st and 32nd offenses in the league I guess?
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:25 am to Jcorye1
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That being said, 99 offensive plays including penalties will kill almost any defense.
Everyone understands this.
Try and understand this was not for one game.
Look at 2015 and 2016 as a whole.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:36 am to David Ricky
not sure I agree with this move. Defense was gassed by the end of the game
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:38 am to Mystery
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Try and understand this was not for one game.
I get that they weren't great, but a complete rebuild of coaches doesn't seem like the best idea either, especially when it seemed like the players turned the corner.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:40 am to Mystery
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People got excited when they shut down the 31st and 32nd offenses in the league I guess?
Or maybe when they shut down that Aaron Rodgers guy
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:43 am to Mystery
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Not really, They played well against the Cardinals and Panthers sure but the Saints but up 473 yards on them and the Chiefs put up a ton too.
The Saints had 13 points going into the 4th quarter. Saints scored 2 TDs in the last 3 minutes of the game to make it look respectable.
Their defense gave up 20 points to the Chiefs, who scored on a defensive TD and a 2 point conversion return.
So yea, since week 10
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Not surprisingly, the Falcons defense as a whole has gotten better as the season progressed. Much better, in fact. After allowing 28.3 points a game in the 10 outings before their bye, they’ve given up 20.4 points an outing since. Their total takeaways are up from 11 to 13 and their passer rating allowed has gone from nearly 101 to under 78.
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That success has continued in the playoffs: When facing a pair of dangerous offenses led by Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers, Atlanta surrendered 20 and 21 points to Seattle and Green Bay, respectively. Altogether, only one team (the Saints) scored more than three touchdowns against the Falcons in the last month and a half.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:07 am to TigerBait1127
Or Tom Brady for 3 and a half quarters until out defense finally wore out from being on the field so much. Our defense improved a lot. Created turnovers. With 4 rookies on defense.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:17 am to TigerBait1127
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The Saints had 13 points going into the 4th quarter. Saints scored 2 TDs in the last 3 minutes of the game to make it look respectable.
Were still moving the ball all game. And still at the end of the day gave up 32 points and 470 yards.
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Their defense gave up 20 points to the Chiefs, who scored on a defensive TD and a 2 point conversion return.
Gave up 389 yards to the Chiefs too.
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Not surprisingly, the Falcons defense as a whole has gotten better as the season progressed. Much better, in fact. After allowing 28.3 points a game in the 10 outings before their bye, they’ve given up 20.4 points an outing since. Their total takeaways are up from 11 to 13 and their passer rating allowed has gone from nearly 101 to under 78.
They only had 6 games after their bye week and 2 of them were against the 49ers and Rams. These teams pretty much made every defense look like world beaters last year. Of course that would help their numbers. Especially the Rams who average a laughable 260 yards a game.
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When facing a pair of dangerous offenses led by Russell Wilson
Jesus
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and Aaron Rodgers,
No doubt they played very well against him.
Not trying to go back and forth on this all day but the defense was not some great unit. They weren't very good at all.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:24 am to Mystery
From almost SB winners to 4-12, yikes, free fallllllll.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:39 am to Mystery
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Not trying to go back and forth on this all day but the defense was not some great unit. They weren't very good at all.
I'm not saying they are a great unit. I'm saying that they are a young unit that improved tremendously throughout the year, started forcing turnovers, and complemented their explosive offense well. Similar to the 2009 Saints D who weren't good on paper, but
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Were still moving the ball all game. And still at the end of the day gave up 32 points and 470 yards.
Going into the 4th, the Saints had 220 yards and 13 points. The Saints went without scoring from 3:40 in the 2nd until 12:41 in the 4th. The Saints scored a TD with ~1 minute left in the 1st quarter, and didn't score another one until under 12 minutes were left in the 4th quarter. The next drive, Atlanta picked the ball off.
The Saints put up more yards and points in the 4th (down 25 funny enough), than they did in the first 3 quarters.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:41 am to TigerBait1127
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The Saints had 13 points going into the 4th quarter. Saints scored 2 TDs in the last 3 minutes of the game to make it look respectable.
Their defense gave up 20 points to the Chiefs, who scored on a defensive TD and a 2 point conversion return.
So yea, since week 10
The Saints put up 19 points in the 4th quarter, the same as NE did in the SB. Atlanta was hanging on for dear life in Week 17. I listened to 680 Atlanta sportstalk Monday. Former Falcon Finneran was on the show and he may have offered some insight into Shanahan's play-calling in the 4th qtr of the SB. Finneran ran into Shanny in the special parking lot after the Week 17 game and Shanny said when you are facing an elite QB like Brees, you never stop trying to score. I wonder if that mindset carried over to the SB where the elite-of-the-elite (Brady) was getting hot.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:43 am to KingBarkus
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The Saints put up 19 points in the 4th quarter, the same as NE did in the SB. Atlanta was hanging on for dear life in Week 17.
Did you watch the game?
The Saints put up 19 in the 4th quarter and also threw a pick.
The Saints cut it to 13 with 2:47 left in the game. The Saints then recovered an onside kick. The Saints then cut it to 6 with 39 seconds on the clock.
So for the Saints to pull off the comeback, they would have had to recover 2 onside kicks and score 3 TDs in under 3 minutes. Even if the Saints recover the onside kick, they still have to score in about 30 seconds with zero timeouts left.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:53 am to TigerBait1127
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Did you watch the game?
The Saints put up 19 in the 4th quarter and also threw a pick.
Yes, I saw the game. The pick killed any chance of a win. Btw, where was the pick? Would you say that was a quality performance by the Atlanta defense?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:42 am to KingBarkus
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Would you say that was a quality performance by the Atlanta defense?
Yes, I would. Maybe not at the end of the game, but holding our offense to 220 yards and 13 points through 3 quarters and holding the Saints without a TD for over 2 quarters is impressive. Saints never had the ball with a chance to win the game
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The pick killed any chance of a win. Btw, where was the pick
I agree. So the game ended at the 7 minute mark of the 4th quarter with a huge turnover with a 19 point lead. The rest of the game was garbage time. So when you say they were holding on for dear life, it isn't true.
And it happened in the endzone. Pretty clutch play by the defense in a 3 score game. Kind of what most defenses do with a big lead. Keep everything in front and make a play in the red zone. Avoid big plays
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 11:47 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:02 pm to David Ricky
Biggest disparity of number of plays called between teams in the history of NFL postseason, let's fire the defensive coordinator because the offense couldn't keep the ball.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:16 pm to DrSteveBrule
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Biggest disparity of number of plays called between teams in the history of NFL postseason, let's fire the defensive coordinator because the offense couldn't keep the ball.
Because this decision was made as a result of one game. Right.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:22 pm to Wally Sparks
You're absolutely kidding yourself.
The head coach should have fired himself for choking on a dick along with his OC.
The head coach should have fired himself for choking on a dick along with his OC.
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