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re: F U Espys and NBA
Posted on 7/14/16 at 12:24 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 7/14/16 at 12:24 pm to Goldrush25
There is a flip side to it. Anonymous posting allows rational discussion that would otherwise be admonished and labeled as "bigotry" or "racism".
I can have intelligent discourse here about social issues. Facebook? Twitter? I would become a social pariah.
I can have intelligent discourse here about social issues. Facebook? Twitter? I would become a social pariah.
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Posted on 7/14/16 at 12:41 pm to Goldrush25
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If everyone had their real identities attached to their comments, well a lot of the BS would fall by the wayside.
True this.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 1:16 pm to SOCAL TIGER
I turned it off as soon as they started talking. Dumbasses just want to divide the country. Never mind the fact that the names they listed were all criminals.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 1:20 pm to Lester Earl
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the show isnt over, how do you know they wont?
did they?
I didn't watch
ESPYs are retarded
but Go Blue Raiders
Posted on 7/14/16 at 1:30 pm to JOJO Hammer
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Never mind the fact that the names they listed were all criminals.
This has already been discussed. Their rap sheet has nothing to do with whether or not these shootings were justified or not.
Examine the particular circumstances under which the shootings took place and then make a determination as to whether protocol was followed.
The expedient thing to do is to say "well they were criminals," as if to say that makes the shootings automatically justified or more likely to be justified. I'm not saying the shootings were or were not justified. The right thing to do, which is the difficult thing to, is to remove any personal bias and simply look at the sequence of events that took place, then reach a conclusion.
This post was edited on 7/14/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/14/16 at 1:34 pm to Goldrush25
I never said the shooting were justified. I'll let the investigations and courts decide that. But honoring thugs while ignoring murdered police officers further divides the country.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 1:42 pm to JOJO Hammer
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I never said the shooting were justified. I'll let the investigations and courts decide that. But honoring thugs while ignoring murdered police officers further divides the country.
It's dangerous because it allows "the movement" to overtake the facts. It becomes, "It doesn't matter what really happened because it's about (this and that)."
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:10 pm to SabiDojo
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It's dangerous because it allows "the movement" to overtake the facts. It becomes, "It doesn't matter what really happened because it's about (this and that)."
It's amazing to me that the black community lumps all of these in together. Like, how is the Trayvon Martin case anything like the Sterling case, other than a black dude died? Zimmerman wasn't a cop. Trayvon didn't have a gun. Sterling did have a gun.
They are just so different. It's hard to take them seriously. Not to mention the fact that there are 0 speeches about black on black crime, which is obviously the biggest issue in the black community when it comes to violence. Why not give a speech to young black males about the troubles that come along with joining gangs? And I don't disagree that there are issues with cops and black people. The Minnesota incident was egregious.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:25 pm to cas4t
I agree, cas4t.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 3:15 pm to AlonsoWDC
Even if everyone knew everyone's name,address,info just bc they don't post something doesn't mean they don't feel it. Would you rather we have every posters info and he has bottled up anger or would you prefer he release it anonymously?
Posted on 7/14/16 at 3:33 pm to Goldrush25
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If everyone had their real identities attached to their comments, well a lot of the BS would fall by the wayside.
So true.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 3:35 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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So true.
Would it be true? I think people would actually be more full of it, as they would not say anything truthful or anything of substance. There would be no real conversation or dialogue and it would be generic talk show opinions.
The feeling of anonymity on some sites allows for real conversations, it is up to you to decide to engage or expound.
This post was edited on 7/14/16 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 7/14/16 at 3:37 pm to sms151t
That's my feeling as well.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 3:40 pm to sms151t
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The feeling of anonymity on some sites allows for real conversations
It fosters far more discord from what I've seen.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 3:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Sure but people are much more honest and open.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 3:58 pm to SabiDojo
Idk about "open," everything is hyperbolic.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 4:03 pm to SabiDojo
Honest to the point of extreme belligerence. Not conducive to a thoughtful give and take.
Far less open to opposing sides because it's easy to seek out echo chambers.
I'm a naturally argumentative person. I like to argue. But I prefer to do it within the context of exchanging ideas. Too often anonymous online convos devolve into pointless shouting matches.
Far less open to opposing sides because it's easy to seek out echo chambers.
I'm a naturally argumentative person. I like to argue. But I prefer to do it within the context of exchanging ideas. Too often anonymous online convos devolve into pointless shouting matches.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 4:16 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Honest to the point of extreme belligerence
Okay devil's advocate...
Belligerent to you or them? Sometimes we find belligerence where we look for it and do not allow the other side its just due.
Not all people have the same type of verbal skills as others, so what they are trying to convey comes across as belligerent to others.
Some on here, including some in this thread just closed their mind soon as the appearance of the 4 were on the screen, not wanting to hear what was said. Others, thought it was well crafted and articulate. I feel that this is what makes our nation/society/community/village great. We are allowed to express differing ideas and have differing opinions without fear of governmental, judicial, or monetary reprisal.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 4:18 pm to sms151t
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The feeling of anonymity on some sites allows for real conversations, it is up to you to decide to engage or expound.
Not sure if I'd say it allows for more conversations, because many places are just a flame fest, but I do believe it allows for more honesty. I don't believe the anonymity makes people crazy as much as it lets them be crazy.
Personally, I think it is great for moderate and reasonable people and terrible for extremists. The progress and solutions are found in the middle while the extremists seek out echo chambers and get farther from reality.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 4:23 pm to SOCAL TIGER
Gave up on the Espy's after last year, when they gave a non-athlete-tranny a courage award for getting plastic surgery. Didn't watch it last night. Wont watch it next year. They've made their agenda pretty clear.
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