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re: ESPN: Top 10 shooting guards of all time
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:27 am to Buckeye06
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:27 am to Buckeye06
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I think Wade is Harden but a better shooter.
Harden is a better "shooter". Wade takes better shots and was an ELITE defender. Look at his block totals...for a two guard, he is right up there with Jordan.
I don't have a problem with him being 4 on the list but you could make a serious case for him at 3. I don't think he was better than prime Kobe but he's pretty close.
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:40 am to PortCityTiger24
Pretty sure Wade still holds the highest PER in a finals series ever at something absurd like 35.
You can argue Jordan never dominated a finals like that.
You can argue Jordan never dominated a finals like that.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:53 am to SlimCharles140
If Jeezy's paying Lebron, I'm paying Dwayne Wade.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:28 am to dukke v
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Wow... I would take AI just because of his toughness,
What a weird reason to take an inferior player over Wade. I don't want to be hyperbolic, because they're both great, but Wade is the guy to take over Iverson every day of the week.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:36 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:You're crazy!
Clyde Drexler has no business sniffing the top ten.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:36 am to dukke v
quote:Charles Oakley goes #1 overall in an NBA all time re-draft!!!
Wow... I would take AI just because of his toughness
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:01 am to TheDarrell McSteal
quote:
6. Allen Iverson
Just wanted to say I miss watching that dude play.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:57 am to TheDarrell McSteal
Kobe > Jordan
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:01 pm to theunknownknight
Not this again...... We have been over this.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:02 pm to theunknownknight
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Kobe > Jordan
Easily
But, let's just be clear,
1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Jordan
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:03 pm to SabiDojo
Troll............
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:18 pm to Toula
quote:
Pretty sure Wade still holds the highest PER in a finals series ever at something absurd like 35.
You can argue Jordan never dominated a finals like that.
Jordan in 1993 against Phoenix averaged 41 per game (plus 8.5 and 6.3).
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:26 pm to TheDarrell McSteal
I think Wade is a little high, considering he is still playing. His peak could roll with those guys...but he had a relatively short peak...
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:39 pm to The Human Fetus
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Wade at 4 is laughable. First 3 are legit.
quote:
Wade at 4? Meh, top 10 but not 4
why? he won three titles in five attempts. in 2006 he carried a team to the title. in 2012, he was at LEAST 2nd banana and maybe closer to 1a/1b. and 2013. he was the 2nd best option. he also made two additional Finals.
why would anyone discount wade?
5. Clyde Drexler - never won a title.
6. Allen Iverson - never won a title. horribly inefficient. dropped off a cliff later in his career.
7. George Gervin - nope.
8. Ray Allen - won a title, but wasn't top option. his teams were middling playoff teams.
9. Reggie Miller - great stats, but never even advanced to the ECF. middling defensive player
10. Earl Monroe - different era.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:55 pm to The Human Fetus
quote:
Wade at 4 is laughable.
No, it's not.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:06 pm to ehidal1
MJ is GOAT.
Bigs today flat out suck in comparison to bigs from the 90's.
Chaz Barkley would wreak so much havoc today it is terrifying.
Stockton is the most underrated NBA player on the MSB by a long shot.
Last, but not least, D-Wade is unequivocally the 4th best SG in NBA history. Best defender on that list not named MJ/Kobe, too. Who below him is better?
3× NBA champion (2006, 2012–2013)
NBA Finals MVP (2006)
11× NBA All-Star (2005–2015)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (2010)
2× All-NBA First Team (2009–2010)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2005–2006, 2011)
3× All-NBA Third Team (2007, 2012–2013)
3× All-Defensive Second Team (2005, 2009–2010)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2004)
NBA scoring champion (2009)
Bigs today flat out suck in comparison to bigs from the 90's.
Chaz Barkley would wreak so much havoc today it is terrifying.
Stockton is the most underrated NBA player on the MSB by a long shot.
Last, but not least, D-Wade is unequivocally the 4th best SG in NBA history. Best defender on that list not named MJ/Kobe, too. Who below him is better?
3× NBA champion (2006, 2012–2013)
NBA Finals MVP (2006)
11× NBA All-Star (2005–2015)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (2010)
2× All-NBA First Team (2009–2010)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2005–2006, 2011)
3× All-NBA Third Team (2007, 2012–2013)
3× All-Defensive Second Team (2005, 2009–2010)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2004)
NBA scoring champion (2009)
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:52 pm to Solo
quote:
Who below him is better?
no one. you could make the argument that he's better than West. not saying he is. but the argument wouldn't be stupid.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:07 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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9. Reggie Miller - great stats, but never even advanced to the ECF. middling defensive player
Just wanted to point out how wrong this is; Miller played in an NBA Finals vs. the Lakers (lost), and 5 or 6 Eastern Conference Finals.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:13 pm to TheDarrell McSteal
i always though of Miller and Drexler more as SF. but they were shooting guards.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:14 pm to TheDarrell McSteal
I'd have AI at 4, possibly 3
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