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re: Eli Manning Is The Worst QB to ever Win a SB
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:14 pm to TigersHuskers
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:14 pm to TigersHuskers
He's the worst to win 2.
Different was the worst to win "just" one.
Different was the worst to win "just" one.
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:42 pm to TigersHuskers
Ben Roethlisberger may not be the worst, but his performance in XL is certainly the worst performance to win one.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:43 pm to Tactical1
Look up the Baltimore QB stats for Super Bowl V.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:57 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
This thread speaks directly to the outright futility of expecting intelligent discourse on TD.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:06 pm to Dalosaqy
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I believe EM has the most road playoff wins in history as a QB
I'd need to see some stats on that, but it is partly misleading since better QBs help their teams win enough games that they get some home playoff games and or a bye and don't have to win as many road games to get deep in the playoffs.
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Eli had the most playoff road wins at 5 until Flacco passed him with 6, recently
I believe EM has the most road playoff wins in history as a QB
I'd need to see some stats on that, but it is partly misleading since better QBs help their teams win enough games that they get some home playoff games and or a bye and don't have to win as many road games to get deep in the playoffs.
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Eli had the most playoff road wins at 5 until Flacco passed him with 6, recently
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:32 am to lsufan112001
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Eli had the most playoff road wins at 5 until Flacco passed him with 6, recently
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:38 am to udtiger
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He's the worst to win 2.
in the 2000's maybe, but he is not worse than Jim Plunkett.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:40 am to H-Town Tiger
If you had to pick one QB in the NFC right now to go play a road playoff game in Green Bay (which means you can't pick Rodgers) and the game time temperature is 10 degrees, who are you taking?
Same question for the AFC, only swap out Green Bay and Rodgers for New England and Brady.
For the NFC, I would pick Eli and not think twice about it.
For the AFC, I would flip a coin between Flacco and Roethlisberger and be happy with either choice.
Same question for the AFC, only swap out Green Bay and Rodgers for New England and Brady.
For the NFC, I would pick Eli and not think twice about it.
For the AFC, I would flip a coin between Flacco and Roethlisberger and be happy with either choice.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:50 am to SeminoleMarine
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I'm going with Brandon Browner
if Browner was a QB maybe? Reading is not your best asset I'm guessing.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:00 am to VADawg
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If you had to pick one QB in the NFC right now to go play a road playoff game in Green Bay (which means you can't pick Rodgers) and the game time temperature is 10 degrees, who are you taking?
Carson Palmer
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:02 am to dukke v
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You are an idiot for saying Bradsahaw doesn't deserve to be in the HOF...You are just another young poster that goes just by stats.....
no, most people just overrate bradshaw because he was fortunate enough to have the best defense in the nfl for years. his actual numbers are pedestrian (51% 212 TDs and 210 INTs for his career)
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:03 am to lsufball19
I think you have to take Eli, just because he has shown he can do it in bad weather.
Palmer, while a great QB this year has not won a cold weather playoff game, that I am aware of. But the thing that helps him especially this year is the running game and the Defense that the Cards have.
Palmer, while a great QB this year has not won a cold weather playoff game, that I am aware of. But the thing that helps him especially this year is the running game and the Defense that the Cards have.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:04 am to TigersHuskers
This topic is totally unfair to Eli Manning. He has always been a bit prone to committing turnovers, but this is not unique to Manning only.
What Manning does have is two Super Bowl wins. There are only 10 other quarterbacks that can claim multiple Super Bowl wins. Seven are retired, six of which are in the HoF. The other three? Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, and Tom Brady. All three of these players will be joining the aforementioned six in the HoF someday.
Two of the quarterbacks on the list of multiple Super Bowl wins, Troy Aikman and Terry Bradshaw, were very underwhelming players on great teams. Manning is better than both. You might even be able to argue that Manning is a better quarterback than Bob Griese, who also won multiple Super Bowls.
In any case, Eli Manning is far from the GOAT, but far from the worst. Totally unfair and unjustified topic.
What Manning does have is two Super Bowl wins. There are only 10 other quarterbacks that can claim multiple Super Bowl wins. Seven are retired, six of which are in the HoF. The other three? Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, and Tom Brady. All three of these players will be joining the aforementioned six in the HoF someday.
Two of the quarterbacks on the list of multiple Super Bowl wins, Troy Aikman and Terry Bradshaw, were very underwhelming players on great teams. Manning is better than both. You might even be able to argue that Manning is a better quarterback than Bob Griese, who also won multiple Super Bowls.
In any case, Eli Manning is far from the GOAT, but far from the worst. Totally unfair and unjustified topic.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:05 am to lsufball19
I find it rather odd people take Bradshaw down on numbers, but hype others based soley on stats. Bradshaw was the last to call his own plays. Had big moments in big games, was a multiple time Pro Bowler.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:10 am to sms151t
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was a multiple time Pro Bowler.
Bradshaw had 1 All-Pro season in his 14 year career. He had the great fortune of playing on a great team.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:16 am to lsufball19
4× Super Bowl Champion (IX, X, XIII, XIV)
2× Super Bowl MVP (XIII, XIV)
He was a multiple Pro Bowler, that is a list worthy of a HOF career.
3× Pro Bowl (1975, 1978, 1979)
AP First-Team All-Pro (1978)
4× AFC Champion (1974, 1975, 1978, 1979)
NFL MVP (AP, MX, 1978)
NFL Quarterback of the Year (1978)
2× Pittsburgh Steelers Team MVP (1977, 1978)
2× NFL Passing TDs Leader (1978, 1982)
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (1979)
NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
Pittsburgh Steelers #12 no longer issued
2× Super Bowl MVP (XIII, XIV)
He was a multiple Pro Bowler, that is a list worthy of a HOF career.
3× Pro Bowl (1975, 1978, 1979)
AP First-Team All-Pro (1978)
4× AFC Champion (1974, 1975, 1978, 1979)
NFL MVP (AP, MX, 1978)
NFL Quarterback of the Year (1978)
2× Pittsburgh Steelers Team MVP (1977, 1978)
2× NFL Passing TDs Leader (1978, 1982)
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (1979)
NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
Pittsburgh Steelers #12 no longer issued
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 10:17 am
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:18 am to sms151t
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3× Pro Bowl (1975, 1978, 1979)
AP First-Team All-Pro (1978)
4× AFC Champion (1974, 1975, 1978, 1979)
NFL MVP (AP, MX, 1978)
NFL Quarterback of the Year (1978)
2× Pittsburgh Steelers Team MVP (1977, 1978)
2× NFL Passing TDs Leader (1978, 1982)
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (1979)
NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
Pittsburgh Steelers #12 no longer issued
There are a lot of QBs that have made 3 pro bowls
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:19 am to lsufball19
Okay you just are going to keep saying he doesn't belong in HOF I get it.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:23 am to hoopsgalore
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What Manning does have is two Super Bowl wins. There are only 10 other quarterbacks that can claim multiple Super Bowl wins. Seven are retired, six of which are in the HoF. The other three? Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, and Tom Brady. All three of these players will be joining the aforementioned six in the HoF someday.
Super Bowls are team accomplishments. Manning is an OK QB who had 2 nice runs. If he gets in the Hall and he probably will, to me it indicates a lowering of standards and the ultra lazy "RINGS" argument in which you are engaging.
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Two of the quarterbacks on the list of multiple Super Bowl wins, Troy Aikman and Terry Bradshaw, were very underwhelming players on great teams. Manning is better than both. You might even be able to argue that Manning is a better quarterback than Bob Griese, who also won multiple Super Bowls
It is hard to compare current players to guys like Bradshaw and Griese who played under entirely different rules with entirely different offenses.
Aikman clearly benefited from having great talent around him, but that should not hurt him either. Without all those guys he probably doesn't have the 3 rings, but if he was foreced to he could have put up numbers like Marino, Fouts, Kelly etc.
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