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re: Dion Waiters to OKC. JR Smith to Cleveland

Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:48 pm to
No idea.

I like Reggie, and he's arguably the best backup PG in the game.

But man the guy plays some of the worst defense I've ever seen. Definitely a huge strike against him.

I thought he might be offered max money last summer after the playoffs but now I doubt it.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:36 am to
quote:

@ESPNSteinLine: Kevin Durant on Dion Waiters: "We're going to make him feel wanted. I don't think he's felt that the last few years."


Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:40 am to
Wait til he starts chucking and hogging the ball.

And wanting to start.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:41 am to
Soooo Reggie Jackson?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:46 am to
quote:

Hardwood Paroxysm @HPbasketball
“What if I told you that that a player was traded for the younger/future version of himself?"


quote:

Hardwood Paroxysm @HPbasketball
"ESPN presents 12 Monkeys, the JR Smith-Dion Waiters Trade Story, a 30 for 30 production."


This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 12:46 am
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:48 am to
quote:

Soooo Reggie Jackson?


Reggie Jackson and Dion Waiters.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:46 am to
So Cavs got Smith and Shumpert and OKC got Waters, Knicks got a pick.....
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:49 am to
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@ESPNSteinLine: Kevin Durant on Dion Waiters: "We're going to make him feel wanted. I don't think he's felt that the last few years."


Funny that Durant says that. You aren't going to hear Westbrook share that same sentiment.

"Wait, you're telling me there's another guy that really likes to shoot once I pass him the ball? I don't think so."


On the entire trade itself, I think both the Thunder and Cavs win here. For the Thunder, you get a young scorer for practically nothing, and while he'll come off the bench at first, he can be a good offensive insurance WHEN Westbrook or Durant go down again.

For the Cavs, they weren't keeping Waiters and everyone knew it. Whether he's a shot chucker or not, to get a 6th Man of the Year on a team with championship aspirations, that's always key. Maybe getting away from that triangle will be beneficial to him. In Shumpert, they get the defensive guard that they wanted when they were pursuing Corey Brewer. Not saying they are the same at all, but they got the type of player they were seeking.

If the Cavs can pick up Dalembert when the Knicks cut him too, this may wind up being a solid outcome for them in the end
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 6:53 am
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
33506 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:50 am to
The Cavs actually got a solid defender while getting rid of Waiters? Winner winner chicken dinner.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:40 am to
Cavs getting Okafur (so?) the C whose been out of league with injuries
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Member since Aug 2009
29448 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:51 am to
Looks like Okafor is going to sit out the rest of this season. I imagine Jermaine O'Neal is Mavericks bound when he decides to return.

The Cavs do have a 1st rounder back and around a $5 million trade exception still that they will likely use to go get a center. They should kick themselves for ever even thinking of giving the Brazilian made of glass an extension
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17101 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 8:09 am to
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young scorer


In Waiters? That's a stretch...by that definition anyone who gets the opportunity to shoot fifteen times is a scorer, because he doesn't do it very well.

OKC is banking on Waiters being checked-out in Cleveland and having a strong enough organization to tap into his potential. If he simply gives them what he gave Cleveland this trade doesn't help them at all.
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
5942 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 8:38 am to
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Meh. JR Smith = a slightly better Dion Waiters

Shumpert = a really good defensive SG (a major need)

Dion isn't a team player and doesn't play defense. They were going to toss him eventually. This move gives them better defense and more depth.

If the Cavs got Dalembert out of this deal I would said they won this trade by a mile.


This.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:43 am to
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It's not possible for an NBA team to be this dumb is it? It's like trading with a 10 year old in fantasy.


Lol at all the msb posters and how smart they are. This thread delivered.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18500 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Lol at all the msb posters and how smart they are. This thread delivered.
It's time for JR to deliver in the Finals.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:45 am to
Well, JR Smith is, overall, an average player. I'm not really holding this thread against them.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:46 am to
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13SaintTiger


Bumps a thread he never posted in to insult the posters who did...

Great hindsight
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:49 am to
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Would have to add Dellavedova for me to accept
The real winner of this thread.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:49 am to
I didn't know I had to post to have an opinion. That is besides the point of why I bumped it, I just like reading through the over reactions.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15182 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:51 am to
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I didn't know I had to post to have an opinion. That is besides the point of why I bumped it, I just like reading through the over reactions.



No, but to act like you always knew better would suggest you were man enough to post about it before you had hindsight to hide behind.
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