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re: Depressing KD/Westbrook Video
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:43 pm to QuackAttack716
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:43 pm to QuackAttack716
That's why he will never be #1. Bc he knew he couldn't win and had to skip town to join up with two other top 10 players.
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 3:59 pm to QuackAttack716
quote:OUtside of Russ they have a top 5 player?
lol they have a top 5 player. LeBron had no top 5 teammate. When he left the Cavs lost 25 or 26 games in a row. Compare this OKC squad to the 2011 Cavs.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:00 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Do you still not realize that he wouldn't have gotten to 3 rings if he stays din CLE?
That's why he will never be #1. Bc he knew he couldn't win and had to skip town to join up with two other top 10 players.
By the ignorant masses, Lebron is going to need at least 5 and probably 6 to compare to MJ, and even then he still won't. He had zero chance of reaching that number staying in CLE so your point is irrelevant.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:04 pm to shel311
Idk If he would have or not. That was his only chance to surpass Jordan. Nothing to be ashamed of at being #2. He coulda been GOAT tho. Had all the physical tools, just didn't have it up top.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:04 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:It's a pretty crowded field at the moment.
He's about to win MVP.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:07 pm to PearlJam
It's not particularly close.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:08 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Ok.
Idk If he would have or not. That was his only chance to surpass Jordan. Nothing to be ashamed of at being #2. He coulda been GOAT tho. Had all the physical tools, just didn't have it up top.
"Perception is reality" is for the weak minded, those who can't think for themselves, fwiw. Perception is perception, reality is the only reality.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:12 pm to Boomshockalocka
If you're the only person who thinks something is true And everyone else disagrees. It doesn't make you strong minded and everyone else weak minded.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:18 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:It does if it's reality and everyone else who disagrees does so based on a perception...obviously.
If you're the only person who thinks something is true And everyone else disagrees. It doesn't make you strong minded and everyone else weak minded.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:24 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Idk If he would have or not. That was his only chance to surpass Jordan. Nothing to be ashamed of at being #2. He coulda been GOAT tho. Had all the physical tools, just didn't have it up top.
he stays in cleveland, he has a 0% chance.
2010-11: lost to Dallas
2011-12: beat OKC
2012-13: beat SAS
2013-14: lost to SAS
2014-15: lost to GSW
2015-16: beat GSW
2016-17: ???
Those 4 years he was gone: 97 total wins.
They also accumulated: Irving, Deng, Thompson, Bennett, Wiggins, and Waiters.
He doesn't get Irving to play with him.
He doesn't get Wiggins to trade for Love.
his #2 fiddle is probably TT.
You think that's going to beat the loaded OKC? No
You think that's going to beat the ball movement SAS? No
Definitely not going to beat GSW
He'd be struggling to beat Toronto, Boston, and probably even Indiana of a few years back to even reach the finals. You'd be talking about how he's never able to get it done at all with all of his talents and 'empty numbers'.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:25 pm to shel311
How will 'reality' ever say that Lebron > Jordan. It can't be proven. They play a team game and are individuals. They played in different eras. ALL That matters is perception. Who people think was better. Because you can never prove who is better. Hey if you wanna be one of the 4-5% or whatever taking Lebron good for you. You ain't changing anybody's mind and barely anyone agrees with you. I guess calling everyone else weak minded is all you got at that point bc you on the wrong side of history.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:26 pm to htran90
You don't know who they would or would not have added to the team. I don't have a clue why you wasted your time posting all that nonsense TBH. You can't pick and choose who they woulda signed to fit your narrative.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:26 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:I'm not.
Hey if you wanna be one of the 4-5% or whatever taking Lebron good for you. You ain't changing anybody's mind and barely anyone agrees with you.
quote:People who think perception is reality instead of reality are 100% weak minded, I'm not even going to debate that.
I guess calling everyone else weak minded is all you got at that point bc you on the wrong side of history.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:27 pm to shel311
For subjective arguments like GOAT perception is what matters bc you can't prove a reality. This is fact.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:29 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:You're saying by Lebron teaming up with the Super Friends, the perception is he'll never be GOAT.
For subjective arguments like GOAT perception is what matters bc you can't prove a reality. This is fact.
I'm saying that is weak minded because the reality is he's LITERALLY the same player if he stayed in CLE and never won a title. That IS a reality.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:31 pm to shel311
he maybe the same player but his accomplishments would be different. You can't be this dumb. Lebron would be the same player no matter who he played for. His argument for GOAT or not is his accomplishments. You wanna beat MJ you gotta do something really really special. Super friends team joining up in Miami is NOT special.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:36 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:This favors Lebron more than anything, then. I have a strong inkling that as the years pass, people that watched him play will put him above MJ.
For subjective arguments like GOAT perception is what matters bc you can't prove a reality. This is fact.
Part of that has to do with many of us finally realizing MJ wasn't perfect. For a very long time, people older than me had me thinking he literally never lost a damn thing.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Yeah. We're saying he is the same player AND has more accomplishments now. Bro
he maybe the same player but his accomplishments would be different
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:I disagree. We will see.
It's not particularly close.
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