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re: DAT: 2017 Houston Astros Spring Training Thread
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:38 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:38 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
The legend is back in the box
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:45 pm to dhav14
Face reality..we won't resign springer and tucker is the only legit OF prospect anywhere close to making an impact. And don't give me Fisher.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:57 pm to Tiger Ryno
Should package Whitley and OF prospect Dao Camelback for Kike IMO
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:12 pm to dhav14
Brownie 
Was listening to him call the game on the radio. There's no replacing Brownie.
Was listening to him call the game on the radio. There's no replacing Brownie.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:38 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Man, imagine the buzz around this city and this team if we were to make the Quintana trade before opening day. Would be so much fun
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:49 pm to 5 Deep
I already have a pretty good buzz.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:50 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Face reality..we won't resign springer and tucker is the only legit OF prospect anywhere close to making an impact. And don't give me Fisher.
I think it's pretty clear Tucker is the deal breaker for Luhnow as well
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:00 pm to dhav14
Sounds like it.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:15 pm to 5 Deep
I'll tell ya...I go back and forth on Quintana. Martes and Tucker plus more is a hell of a prospect package. That gets you an ace or other high level player. I don't feel like Quintana is a frontline starter or the ace of a staff. I don't know that its like trading for a Randy Johnson, Sabathia or Grienke and getting your ace, a guy that you feel confident can shutdown your opponent every round of the playoffs. I kind of like Archer as that guy. But at the same time...
200.0IP 3.51ERA
200.1IP 3.32ERA
206.1IP 3.36ERA
208.0IP 3.20ERA
2017: 28 yo $7MM salary
2018: 29 yo $8.85MM
2019: 30 yo $10.5MM team option/ $1MM buyout
2020: 31 yo $11.5MM team option/ $1MM buyout
Total cost of $17.85 million if we kept him for 17 and 18 and then bought out of his contract. $37.85 million if we kept him all 4 remaining years. For a guy with his track record...that's robbery.
Quintana is a really really solid and reliable pitcher. He without a doubt improves the team. That prospect package could typically buy you an ace who's an impending free agent or has 1 year left on his deal. For Quintana it gets you a solid rotation boost/innings eater affordably controlled for 3-4 more years. Its a fair ask on the Sox part.
200.0IP 3.51ERA
200.1IP 3.32ERA
206.1IP 3.36ERA
208.0IP 3.20ERA
2017: 28 yo $7MM salary
2018: 29 yo $8.85MM
2019: 30 yo $10.5MM team option/ $1MM buyout
2020: 31 yo $11.5MM team option/ $1MM buyout
Total cost of $17.85 million if we kept him for 17 and 18 and then bought out of his contract. $37.85 million if we kept him all 4 remaining years. For a guy with his track record...that's robbery.
Quintana is a really really solid and reliable pitcher. He without a doubt improves the team. That prospect package could typically buy you an ace who's an impending free agent or has 1 year left on his deal. For Quintana it gets you a solid rotation boost/innings eater affordably controlled for 3-4 more years. Its a fair ask on the Sox part.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:10 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Lets just play a hypothetical here and say LMJ doesnt get hurt and can pitch like the FOR starter he looked like for June and July last year. We trade for quintana.
Our rotation looks like this
LMJ
Quintana
Keuchel
Musgrove
Morton/McHugh
That rotation looks very good for a LONG time.
I see Quintana as a solid #2 starter.
Our rotation looks like this
LMJ
Quintana
Keuchel
Musgrove
Morton/McHugh
That rotation looks very good for a LONG time.
I see Quintana as a solid #2 starter.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:01 pm to Adam Banks
Lance won't be a true ace until he develops his change where he feels more comfortable throwing it. I don't recall any two pitch aces.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:05 pm to iamAG
Hell, he needs to be able to consistently spot his fastball first.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:14 pm to iamAG
quote:
I don't recall any two pitch aces.
I'm just spitballing here, so correct me if I'm wrong.
Randy Johnson
Nolan Ryan
Steve Carlton
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:35 pm to High C
Bregman will be back on Friday. Joining the WBC was a fricking mistake. 4 at bats in 2 weeks. Leyland is a tool. Ya I'm salty.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:38 pm to Lsuhoohoo
You can be salty. I agree
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:52 pm to High C
Johnson and Ryan had a third pitch that they used significantly more than lance does.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:56 pm to iamAG
Ryan had a nasty change the second half of his career. Now it was still 90mph. But his fb was 98
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:57 pm to Tiger Ryno
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This post was edited on 4/9/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:58 pm to msutiger
I assume they will stream the games on the Directv app/website and the Uverse equivalents.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:04 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Obviously, in hindsight Bregman should've played for Israel. They needed bats and he could've gotten a ton of quality ABs.
Still glad he'll be in orange on opening day.
Still glad he'll be in orange on opening day.
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