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re: Dan Marino: I would have thrown for 6000 yards in today's NFL

Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:35 pm to
You do realize its significantly easier to complete passes in the NFL these days compared to the 1980's don't you? You do realize that the NFL has made an effort to become a passing game rather than a running game don't you?
Posted by ptra
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:37 pm to
His best season in 1984 was 5084 yards on 564 attempts, completion rate on 64.2 %, yards per completion was 14.0

Transfer that to 2014 when 11 teams had over 600 attempts passing, 2 teams over 650. It could be realistic that Marino would have 650 attempts in a modern offense. Assuming the same completion rate, and yards per completion, he would have had 5893 yards in his best season.

It would have been very hard to hit 6000, but he could have had the most yards in a season. The record owned by Manning is 393 more yards than Marino's 1984 season but Manning had 90 more attempts.


Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:38 pm to
Marino played his entire career after the bump and run rule, we aren't talking about Johnny Unitas here
Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:04 pm to
Kind of a humblebrag but whatever. I went to HS with one of Marino's daughters, that chick used to bring so much blow to all the parties. She got kicked out of the school for lighting up in the bathroom my junior year
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:18 pm to
Montana had a career 63.2% completion, Young had a career 64.3%. Considered two of the best QBs of the 80s/90s and they still get sub 65 completion%. That is ludicrous to compare completion % eras.

In 1984, the average top 10 QBs compiled a 62.52 completion %.

In 1985, the average top 10 QBs compiled a 58.72 completion %.

In 2013, the average top 10 QBs compiled a 66.25 completion %.

In 2014, the average top 10 QBs compiled a 66.83 completion %.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:24 pm to
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The record owned by Manning
Posted by Celery
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:54 pm to
Laces out DAN
Posted by sassyLSU
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:31 am to
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There's a reason he never won shite, and it's not entirely a lack of a running game.



SF/Montana is one reason.

Minnesota with Tarkenton. ran into Steelers and Raiders
Bufffalo. blame it on the FG kicker.
Posted by 504Voodoo
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 1:53 am to
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Laces out DAN



I can't believe it took that long before that was posted
Posted by tankyank13
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 5:56 am to
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That is ludicrous to compare completion % eras. 




When san Fran started running the west coast offense a lot more receptions were made by runnbacks out of the backfield which helped completion %, fast forward to today with the hybrid backs most offense start there.
Back in the day most everything was down field, I would love to watch Marino play in today's NFL, with Marino you had to cover the whole field, and the ball would come out before the defense could turn their hips. Aaron Rodgers is the closest ive seen throw the ball the way Marino slang it
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 6:13 am
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 6:09 am to
And he still wouldn't have won a Super Bowl.
Posted by tankyank13
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 6:11 am to
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And he still wouldn't have won a Super Bowl.




Because you need more then a great QB to win one
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 7:46 am to
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For his career he was less accurate than such notables as Cam Newton, Tim Couch, and David Carr.


He threw a lot of passes away because of pressure. THe game today is so different. The 46 fricking defense worked back then.

also, I'd say 90% of the time he was working with only 2 WRS and not these 4-5 WR packages they do these days.

quote:

Cam Newton, Tim Couch, and David Carr.


Probably would not have made the league back in 1996, let alone 1984.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:01 am to
There have been other limitations place on the cb since then as well. There have also been changes allowing for the ol to more easily block for the qb.
Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:06 am to
Doubt it.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:07 am to
Romo averaged 8.5 YPA last year, best in the league. At that rate, a QB would have to nearly break the record for attempts in a season to hit 6k. Would not happen with that volume.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:03 am to
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I doubt it. He wasn't as...,strong, as big, or with as big an arm as today's QBs.





Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:05 am to
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SPEEDY





Posted by King George
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:14 am to
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Super bowl loss to NFC champ SF is what people remember.
I seem to remember Dan holding all the passing records until Favre decided to keep on playing for 37 seasons. In his day what he was doing was unthinkable at his position.

Too bad he never had any semblance of a defense or running game. You think Brady or Montana won those rings on their own?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:17 am to
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I seem to remember Dan holding all the passing records until Favre decided to keep on playing for 37 seasons


Marino was a beast. Its too bad we were robbed of seeing the 1985 Dolphins vs. Da bears in the SB. A rematch from the regular season in which the Dolphins gave the Bears their only loss that season....
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