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re: Cook vs. Henry Heisman Chart

Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:49 am to
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22797 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:49 am to
quote:

Why is it a joke if it goes to Henry?


Henry
295 att 1797 yards 6.1 y/c
10 rec 97 yards 9.7 y/r
22 TDs
12 games

Fournette
271 att 1751 yards 6.5 y/c
18 rec 209 yards 11.6 y/r
18 TDs
11 games

Cook
211 att 1658 yards 7.9 y/c
22 rec 218 yards 9.9 y/r
19 TDs
11 games

Clearly Cook and Fournette have better stats. Henry would be winning because of his team. It is suppose to be a most outstanding player and there are clearly two better RBs in power 5 conferences than Henry.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15305 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:01 am to
Interesting... i see Fournette has played less games. How about just do stats vs common SEC opponents!!
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15305 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:19 am to
Fournette

745 SEC west yards
149 per game
123 attempts
6.05 ypc
8tds


Henry

933 SEC west yards
186.6 a game
150 attempts
6.22 ypc
7tds


There you go buddy.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 1:21 am
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7653 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:25 am to
quote:

Cook


quote:

11 games


You can use this argument for Fournette, but not Cook. He missed his game because of injury, when he had FAR less carries than Henry or Fournette. Who neither missed any major time against conference opponents for injury.

You give Fournette and Henry an ACC schedule, and they both have over 2,000 yards right now. Without a doubt.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 2:44 am to
All I saw was a bunch of pointless stats chalked up from a butthurt FSU fan.


Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:12 am to
quote:

You give Fournette and Henry an ACC schedule, and they both have over 2,000 yards right now. Without a doubt.


. Cook is clearly better than both its not close.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83933 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:35 am to
quote:

You give Fournette and Henry an ACC schedule, and they both have over 2,000 yards right now. Without a doubt


Didn't the ACC go 3-1 against the SEC yesterday?
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:56 am to
quote:

Clearly Cook and Fournette have better stats. Henry would be winning because of his team. It is suppose to be a most outstanding player and there are clearly two better RBs in power 5 conferences than Henry.


Fournette's stats were padded against bad run defenses. Henry's were against good teams. There is no comparison.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:38 am to
Fournette does not clearly have better stats than Henry.
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:44 am to
Fournette racked up a rather large portion of his numbers against bad defenses. I'd have no issue with it going to Cook but Henry has clearly been better than Fournette.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Clearly Cook and Fournette have better stats


It isn't supposed to be all about stats.

Alabama has twice needed Henry to ice the game, against LSU he did it, and against Auburn he did it. He had 45 carries already when he ripped off carry #46 for a 25 yard game sealer. Plus his OL is horrible and his offense doesn't stretch the field vertically very well. He has shined in big games. Alabama would not be in the SEC Championship Game this year without Derrick Henry.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12949 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:11 am to
Henry had the luxury of playing for Bama and not against them.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Henry had the luxury of playing for Bama and not against them.



Not having to play against Bama's defense is a luxury, but playing behind this 2015 Bama OL isn't
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22797 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:32 am to
Just stop pretending and admit that Henry will win because

1. It is Alabama
2. Fournette is getting penalized for the inept coaching of Les Miles and the OL performance against Alabama
3. Cook won't win because he is in the ACC and his team is not going to the playoffs

This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 9:34 am
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16518 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Fournette racked up a rather large portion of his numbers against bad defenses.


Fournette played against the Bama defense, Henry did not. He has more total yards than both in 1 less game.

The Heisman is just as much about how good the team is. Henry deserves it. Who the best player is can be another discussion down the road.
Posted by crownNbull
Gretna
Member since Jun 2010
3078 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Didn't the ACC go 3-1 against the SEC EAST yesterday?


FIFY
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:19 am to
Fournette also put up 20+ carries vs three bottom of the barrel rush defenses (EMU, Syracuse and USCe are all bottom 50 in Def S&P+) and was outperformed by Henry in 3 of 5 common matchups. Henry's carries were limited against the cupcake opponents (40 combined amongst ULM, MTSU and CSU).
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

. Cook is clearly better than both its not close.



I love the whole "its not close" thing....it's so fun.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83933 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

Didn't the ACC go 3-1 against the SEC EAST yesterday?


quote:

FIFY


God forbid Dalvin Cook go up against the stingy run defense of MSU, A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Auburn, and Ole Miss.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:58 pm to
quote:


I love the whole "its not close" thing....it's so fun.



Guess it depends on how much you value the YPC metric

7.9 is just ridiculous

Cook in that regard has a large edge over both Fournette and Henry
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