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re: Charles Barkley on gay players
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:55 pm to WDE24
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:55 pm to WDE24
quote:
I think maybe you don't understand the Bible, its purpose or its intended application.
I don't understand the Bible. From my experience growing up Catholic, I think too much of it doesn't make any logical sense. It's a huge reason I am no longer a believer.
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:55 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:Feel free to provide some context on stoning someone who works on the Sabbath.
Obvious by the first part of your post...Looks like you're the one that cherry picked a couple of examples of old testament items and ran them out here without any other context
Appreciate it.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:56 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:
Looks like you're the one that cherry picked a couple of examples of old testament items and ran them out here without any other context.
OK... Wanna give me some current-day context as to why homosexuality is wrong and should be condemned? In its original context, many theorize it was because of fertility/population issues.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:57 pm to WDE24
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I think maybe you don't understand the Bible, its purpose or its intended application.
It's meant to tell stories. It's not unlike The Illiad, The Odyssey, or Aeneid
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The New Testament clearly identifies homosexuality as a sin. There are countless things that are sins that were never recorded as spoken words of Jesus.
Well then that settles it, homosexuality is bad
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:57 pm to shel311
Broussard has come under more fire for respectfully stating his opinion than Collins has at any point in this process. This has been a phenomenal career move for Collins.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:58 pm to lsu2006
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Yeah since coming out isn't a big deal or something that people toil with for years, and many times never do for fear of persecution and misunderstanding.
I don't pretend to know anything about the coming out process, but I would think they would have come out by now. Chuck played a long time ago. These guys have to be 40+.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:58 pm to DestrehanTiger
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I don't understand the Bible. From my experience growing up Catholic, I think too much of it doesn't make any logical sense. It's a huge reason I am no longer a believer.
Same here, but insert Episcopalian. I have no ill-will towards the church or the people in the church I grew up in, it just doesn't present anything relevant for me in my day-to-day life. I could get on board with trying to be more like the portrayal of Jesus (love thy neighbor, etc.), other than that, it's not for me.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:59 pm to shel311
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Obvious by the first part of your post...Looks like you're the one that cherry picked a couple of examples of old testament items and ran them out here without any other context Feel free to provide some context on stoning someone who works on the Sabbath. Appreciate it.
Awesome, it's this thread again.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:59 pm to DestrehanTiger
quote:No problem there. I think it unfair to make the statements you made though without a more complete understanding.
I don't understand the Bible.
Lots of people have used Christianity as an excuse to do lots of terrible things, including being bigots toward gay people. That doesn't mean Christianity is bigoted. The Bible declares that none of us our without sin and are helpless in ourselves to remedy that condition. It is Christ alone through grace alone that gives hope. We are all sinners and labeling something as sin isn't hatred, it is merely an acknowledgement of what the creator has revealed to us.
This may all be bull crap, and if you don't believe it, no problem, but at least be fair to what it actual is and represents.
The same Bible commands us to love our neighbor (a sinner) as ourselves (also sinners).
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:00 pm to St Augustine
quote:He may not have a job next year because of this, but yea, phenomenal.
Broussard has come under more fire for respectfully stating his opinion than Collins has at any point in this process. This has been a phenomenal career move for Collins
He's definitely less likely to get a job now as a result. If you are going after a big guy to give you 2 points/2 boards a night, you're going to be less likely to get the guy who will bring the media swirl that he will, and just get the next guy.
So no, it's not phenomenal at all for his hoops career.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:00 pm to ColaTiger
quote:You obviously missed the context of my remark or completely ignored it on purpose to suit your own agenda.
Well then that settles it, homosexuality is bad
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:01 pm to bwallcubfan
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Who are these players and why have they still not come out?
He says that he played with 3-4 players who were gay. I guess I just assume that Charles knows it isn't really his place to publicly out these guys.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:01 pm to St Augustine
quote:
This has been a phenomenal career move for Collins.
I have no respect for anybody who states this. Im sure thats what he was thinking about when he came out.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:01 pm to WDE24
quote:
No problem there. I think it unfair to make the statements you made though without a more complete understanding.
Lots of people have used Christianity as an excuse to do lots of terrible things, including being bigots toward gay people. That doesn't mean Christianity is bigoted. The Bible declares that none of us our without sin and are helpless in ourselves to remedy that condition. It is Christ alone through grace alone that gives hope. We are all sinners and labeling something as sin isn't hatred, it is merely an acknowledgement of what the creator has revealed to us.
This may all be bull crap, and if you don't believe it, no problem, but at least be fair to what it actual is and represents.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:02 pm to lsu2006
quote:Agreed.
Same here, but insert Episcopalian. I have no ill-will towards the church or the people in the church I grew up in, it just doesn't present anything relevant for me in my day-to-day life
Here is the way I see it. If God is this great, understanding dude, there is no logical way a gay person can not be accepted by God into Heaven, if this gay dude has worked his entire life to do the right thing by other folks, devoted his life to helping others blah blah blah, but he so happens to have a sexual preference that, by the way, doens't negatively affect the lives of others.
I don't see the logic in that, at all.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:02 pm to LSUSilverfox
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He says that he played with 3-4 players who were gay. I guess I just assume that Charles knows it isn't really his place to publicly out these guys.
Well I didn't mean for him to out them...just curious as to why they haven't come out now.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:05 pm to shel311
quote:Well, we can hold God to the standard we want him to be and make him completely understandable to ourselves or we can accept that the creator is who he has revealed himself to be through scripture, or we can deny that God exists at all.
Here is the way I see it. If God is this great, understanding dude, there is no logical way a gay person can not be accepted by God into Heaven, if this gay dude has worked his entire life to do the right thing by other folks, devoted his life to helping others blah blah blah, but he so happens to have a sexual preference that, by the way, doens't negatively affect the lives of others.
I don't see the logic in that, at all.
Also, I don't think scripture would support a conclusion that homosexuality in and of itself precludes someone from heaven just as fornication or adultery wouldn't exclude someone from heaven.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:07 pm to bwallcubfan
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.just curious as to why they haven't come out now.
Meaning they should go ahead and jump on the "gay b-ball" bandwagon? Maybe these guys don't care for the attention, IDK.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:09 pm to shel311
Wasn't referring to his hoops career. Maybe 3/10 MSB posters could name Jason Collins prior to him coming out. His name is now forever etched in sports history in what has been an overwhelmingly positive story. He has been lauded by the President, the biggest names in his sport, and every major media outlet in the country. I'm happy he came out and I support gay marriage. But I don't think for a second that this wasn't somewhat calculated on his part.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:10 pm to nicholastiger
These idiots who think Barkley is suppressing his true opinion obviously haven't listed to him at all over the years.
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