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re: Bryce Harper got tossed for being out of the batter's box
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:35 am to tigerpimpbot
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:35 am to tigerpimpbot
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Fwiw, the called strike on Harper and the called 3rd strike on A Rod to end the game were equally horrific calls. That ump is a blind douche.
I think you could make the argument that the pitch did cross the plate in the strike zone....it's not where it hits the mit. But it was close. But my understanding of the "unwritten rules" is that you don't argue balls and strikes that early in the game. Every ump is going to be slightly different so, so you give it a couple of at bats to at least see if he's calling it consistently. It was the first pitch of the at bat, so unless there's some history between the two, I don't get why Harper was making so much of a stink about it. You start jawing to the ump right away, it won't go well.
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:38 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
How bout the ump put on some big boy pants and ignore Harper, whom people are paying to see? If Harper keeps it up, then toss him. This was ridiculous act of ump stealing the show.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:38 am to sicboy
frick unwritten rules. If a pitch is low, then it's low. I don't care what your strike zone looks like. If your strike zone is any different than a normal strike zone, you're wrong and you should either fix it or you shouldn't be doing that job.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:41 am to hendersonshands
That pitch was barely low. I'm not sure if that was the straw that broke the camels back but williams seems like a lunatic bitching about that pitch.
Of course as far as the ump goes im in complete agreement he is grade A douche.
Of course as far as the ump goes im in complete agreement he is grade A douche.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:42 am to hendersonshands
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. If a pitch is low, then it's low. I don't care what your strike zone looks like. If your strike zone is any different than a normal strike zone, you're wrong and you should either fix it or you shouldn't be doing that job.
Newsflash: we haven't implemented an electronic ump yet. Human error is just a reality with baseball. Have to accept it or play/watch something else.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:43 am to bbap
a-hole umpires are the worst. I feel bad for the fans. Tickets aren't cheap.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:43 am to sicboy
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I don't get why Harper was making so much of a stink about it. You start jawing to the ump right away, it won't go well.
Harper really didn't do anything. If an ump is going to get his feelings hurt by body language like that, then he needs to look for a new job
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:44 am to EastNastySwag
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How bout the ump put on some big boy pants and ignore Harper, whom people are paying to see? If Harper keeps it up, then toss him. This was ridiculous act of ump stealing the show.
All I've seen on replays is the "strike" and Harper getting tossed. I don't know what happened in between. I did see Harper start to run his mouth immediately after the call, so again, not a good start.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:45 am to etm512
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Harper really didn't do anything. If an ump is going to get his feelings hurt by body language like that, then he needs to look for a new job
It's just what happens. Don't argue balls and strikes. It's the fast track to an ejection, and it's been that way for a long time.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:45 am to Chillini
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Ump should be suspended for that.
I'm a Yankees fan who doesn't really like Harper, but the ump is an assclown.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:48 am to sicboy
Yeah, I'm aware. I'm also aware that the copout of "each ump has their own zone" is bullshite and protects umps from actually being forced to do a better job. The pitch was a ball, it wasn't an egregious miss and it's one that can be forgiven usually. Matt Williams probably shouldn't have freaked out like he did but toss him if it's over the line, don't act like a child and yell back into the dugout then go on a power trip afterwards. It's insane to let your ego get out of control when the pitch actually was a ball.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:51 am to hendersonshands
The ball was a lot closer than you guys are making it out to be, but I agree that there needs to be a review of umps who's strike zone calls are off the acceptable standard. If that K Zone is accurate at all, it's easy to get the data.
Regardless, ego is what drives this game. I'm sure Harper was thinking "I'm flipping Bryce Harper, he's going to call THAT a strike???"
Regardless, ego is what drives this game. I'm sure Harper was thinking "I'm flipping Bryce Harper, he's going to call THAT a strike???"
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:55 am to sicboy
The difference is that Harper's ego actually matters. The fans pay to see him, he mashes the ball and everyone leaves happy. The ump is there to facilitate the game. If he doesn't get in the box, call a dead ball and add a strike to his count. Ya know, like what the rule book says to do
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:04 am to LSUsmartass
quote:I don't know what he said as he umpire was telling him to return to the batter's box, but the rules are rules. It's a terrible reason to eject anyone, and I can't say it's fair, but it isn't as outrageous as everyone is saying.
I thought it was a fair ejection
I do love me some Bryce Harper, though. I've seen him hit pitches like the one he took a mile, so I'm not sure the argument he had (although the K Zone thing showed it low...I feel like it was still a good pitch).
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:05 am to sicboy
quote:I don't think that's it at all. He thought it was a ball (even though he's mashed pitches like that before) because he thought it was a ball, not because the high and mighty Bryce Harper shant have called strikes against his name.
Regardless, ego is what drives this game. I'm sure Harper was thinking "I'm flipping Bryce Harper, he's going to call THAT a strike???"
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 8:06 am
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:12 am to sicboy
quote:Well obviously this doesn't "just happen" often when the overwhelming majority think it was a horrible call and it becomes a somewhat national story.
It's just what happens.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:15 am to hendersonshands
There are some deserved ejections, but most of them are just umps/refs losing control of themselves or the situation. And I'm so tired of that 'showing me up' bullshite. Nobody even knows your fricking NAME, blue. All you are is a traffic cop, so just keep the game moving, call the trike zone like it's written, and remember nobody paid to see you.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:16 am to buckeye_vol
If this happened to some AAAA player on your favorite team, no one cares. It's because it happened to Bryce Harper. It's not a big deal, except for maybe the Nationals.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:22 am to The Sad Banana
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I don't think that's it at all. He thought it was a ball (even though he's mashed pitches like that before) because he thought it was a ball, not because the high and mighty Bryce Harper shant have called strikes against his name.
First pitch of the at bat, 3rd inning. Unless there's more back story, just shake your head, at the MOST, and finish the at bat. Maybe a little bit of ego.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:23 am to The Sad Banana
No it is a big deal because the umpire acted like a damn child. And don't give me the "it just happens" or "it's just baseball" excuse. How bout instead of standing with our dicks in our hand out in the rain, we try to improve parts of the game
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