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Bobby Bowden 30 for 30

Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:38 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:38 am
Why hasn't there been a 30 for 30 on Bowden? The road to the NC went directly through Tallahassee for over 10 years. I still don't consider his run in the 90s a dynasty, but it is still impressive. More so, seems like there should be a 30 for 30 about the impact the state of Florida has had on not only college football, but football in general.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:48 am to
Maybe on the entire state of Florida. But I don't think Bowden/FSU deserve a documentary specifically on them.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:54 am to
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Maybe on the entire state of Florida. But I don't think Bowden/FSU deserve a documentary specifically on them.

They had an impressive streak from the late 80's up until 2000 of top 5 finishes(I think). A boat load of conference titles as well.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:54 am to
I would think a documentary on the Bowden family coaching tree could be interesting

You got Daddy and his run
Terry at Auburn, UNA, and now reclamation in the MAC
Tommy, from Tulane to being run out at Clemson


That is a good documentary I would think.

The coaching tree off that Richt, Stockstill, Amato, RichRod, and etc.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 10:55 am
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:00 am to
From 1987 to 2000 they finished each season in the top 5. That will never happen again.....
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:02 am to
What is Alabama's run right now? I guess they weren't top 5 when they beat Michigan St in the Citrus Bowl or lost to OU in Sugar though.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 11:04 am
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:06 am to
Correct.... you can say what Bama is doing right now is better because all those titles speak for themselves., but that FSU run was unreal......
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:19 am to
A good friend used to ref ACC games back when Pappa Bowden was on his run & he said Bowden was one of the most profane HC's he ever ran across. In & of itself, all football coaches curse, but Bowden's persona was always that of a sweet loving grand paw type. Friend said Bowden would walk up to him on the sidelines, look straight ahead out on the field, cross his arms across his chest, and unload on him. Others, too of course.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:21 am to
You should hear Coach K in games, he is definitely from Chicago.
Posted by TexasTiger08
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:34 am to
I'd be down for a Sunshine State football documentary. I know The U has been showcased, but those battles between FSU and UF were epic too. LSU fans always complain about losing to Bama in the rematch (and rightfully so), but how about in '96 when FSU beat Florida in Doak in a 1-2 matchup (I think)? They had a rematch in the Sugar Bowl and the Gators trashed the Noles.
Posted by bucknut15
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:35 am to
I wish they'd do one for Bob Knight. Would probably get some fantastic stories from former players and staff members.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:39 am to
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I still don't consider his run in the 90s a dynasty, but it is still impressive.

I don't see how you couldn't. From 1992-2000, FSU won 2 national titles, the ACC every year, finished in the top 5 every year, and went 99-11-1 overall (.900 winning %). They went 70-2 in the ACC over that stretch

If you go back to 1987 (pre-ACC), they finished in the top 5 every season and went 152-19-1 over 14 years (.889 winning %). They went to 12 Orange/Fiesta/Sugar Bowls, going 9-3 in those games and 11-3 overall in bowl games.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 11:45 am
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:43 am to
Yeah it's pretty much the definition of a dynasty. If there was a playoff back then FSU would have been contending for a title just about every year. It'd be cool to hear about how he built the program and interview some of the older players (Dunn, Brooks, etc)
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:30 pm to
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I don't see how you couldn't. From 1992-2000, FSU won 2 national titles, the ACC every year, finished in the top 5 every year, and went 99-11-1 overall (.900 winning %). They went 70-2 in the ACC over that stretch

If you go back to 1987 (pre-ACC), they finished in the top 5 every season and went 152-19-1 over 14 years (.889 winning %). They went to 12 Orange/Fiesta/Sugar Bowls, going 9-3 in those games and 11-3 overall in bowl games.


Imo opinion championships solidify dynasties. Being that they have 2 in 6 years isn't that impressive. On the other hand they played for two more which is impressive. I don't know, I've always been torn on this. The numbers, outside of titles, scream dynasty, but I'm hung up on titles. They were the team of the 90s, being more consistent than Nebraska. I guess they are in the middle of the pack when it comes to dynasties.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:31 pm to
Alabama's "dynasty" has now played in the playoff era for 3 years. Apples and oranges.
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 1:26 pm to
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Being that they have 2 in 6 years isn't that impressive

well let's see who's done that since the 80s
LSU: 2003 and 2007
Florida State: 1993 and 1999
Florida: 2006 and 2008
Nebraska: 1994, 1995, 1997
Miami: 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991
Alabama: 2009, 2011, 2012, 2014

Given FSU's accomplishments outside of NCs during their run, I'd put their dynasty above anyone except Alabama, Miami, and Nebraska. And Nebrska's long-term run wasn't as impressive IMO. Their 3 year run was as impressive as anyone's, however. I think FSU's 14 year streak of top 5 finishes easily puts them in the category of a dynasty
Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:40 pm to
Knights players love him. The guys that would lie and make up sgitcare ones who quit.
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