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re: Better in their prime : Favre or Rodgers?

Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:01 pm to
Rodgers and it isn't even debatable. Favre threw a lot of godawful, soul crippling interceptions
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:06 pm to
Say what you want about today’s 7 on 7 context but what A-Rod’s accomplished in this era is simply unreal: TD/INT ratios of 30-7, 45-6, 39-8, 38-5 and 40-7, all accomplished on 64%+ completion pct, 103 passer rating or better. The only seasons that remotely approach that excellence is Tom Brady’s 2007 and 2016 seasons and Peyton Manning’s 2013 season. So consistently brilliant, it’s uncanny. This dude, with Brady, is the cream of today’s NFL crop and there’s more remaining barring career-ending injury.
Posted by RoadTrucker
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:07 pm to
Rogers
Posted by JohnnyRebel
Colorado
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:25 pm to
Rodgers, but Brett Farve has the GOAT personality in the NFL.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:33 pm to
Favre was more fun. A football player.

Rodgers is a better passer.
Posted by jlntiger
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:54 pm to
Rodgers and it's a landslide . Though to be honest give any quaterback that played pre 2004 the rules today and they would vastly improve .


ETA : you really can't compare qb from different time frames due to the rule changes . The rules are so skewed toward offense now
Posted by 632627
LA
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:55 pm to
The guy who hasn’t thrown the most interceptions (by far) in nfl history
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:00 pm to
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But in terms of actually playing the position and having a peak to what he can accomplish, he's the best anyone has ever seen.
Exactly....he's GOAT.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:02 pm to
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Since your are A PUNK who knows NOTHING about football,,,, Ill give you A pass here... From MY view Favre LOVED the game and played it that way... BUT OF COURSE.. This IS the MSB where STATS are ALL that matter..........
holy frick..
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:11 pm to
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Brett Favre 1995-1997 over any other QB in history. And this was at a time when defense and the running game were legit.

40 year old Favre had his best statistical season in this 7-on-7 era we're in now. Rodgers is great but he benefits a ton from the style of football being played.

I don't see Rodgers throwing blocks on LBers 20 yards down field like Favre, either.

Sure, Favre was reckless at times throughout his career, especially in the 2000s but Favre at his best (95-97) over Rodgers at his best.


If Favre played his whole career in today's NFL he would be untouchable in my opinion.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:28 pm to
A-A-ron
Posted by moock blackjack
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:34 pm to
I'll take Favre any day of the week!!
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:52 pm to
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40 year old Favre had his best statistical season in this 7-on-7 era we're in now. Rodgers is great but he benefits a ton from the style of football being played.



In unrelated news, Adrian Peterson ran for 1383 yards and 18 touchdowns in 2009.

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If Favre played his whole career in today's NFL he would be untouchable in my opinion


He played plenty in somewhat recent memory and threw 3 of the worst passes I've ever seen at the worst possible times to throw them.

1. 2003 playoffs in overtime at Philadelphia. Favre throws a pick so bad that Brian Dawkins basically could have fair caught it. He returns it for a nice gain, Eagles kick a FG, game and season over.

2. 2007 playoffs at home vs NYG. In overtime, Favre throws a horrendous out route that basically hit Corey Webster in the hands. NYG started their drive in FG range, kicked a FG, game and season over.

3. 2009 playoffs at NO. Statistically, Minnesota dominated that game. 3 Favre picks kept NO alive and his last one kept Minnesota from kicking a game winning FG. Minnesota loses in overtime.

If you remember these throws, you can't defend him for them. They were just awful. Everyone loves him because he was the great gunslinger, but he also set a career interceptions record that will likely never be broken.

ETA: I almost forgot about the 6 interception playoff game in St. Louis in 2001 when 3 of them were returned for touchdowns.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 10:55 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:23 pm to
That 6 interception playoff game was HILARIOUS
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:27 pm to
Brees' 2011 season was phenomenal.

Matt Ryan last year is up there, too
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:11 am to
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Not to say he's the GOAT ... he isn't ... Not yet (would need a lot to get there win-wise in my eyes personally) ... But in terms of actually playing the position and having a peak to what he can accomplish, he's the best anyone has ever seen.


Then he's the GOAT or GOAT is pretty meaningless.
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:20 am to
This is tough because on one hand, I'm of the opinion that Rodgers is basically the Lebron of the QB position. He's perfect. Big arm, pinpoint accuracy, mobile, and durable. He takes hit after hit and not like Peyton Manning where he folds up bracing for contact.

On the other hand, Favre pre Manning and Brady was basically what we think of Rodgers today. Big arm, pinpoint accuracy, mobile, and durable. You don't just luck into MVPs.

Ultimately Rodgers has the far and away edge in not committing turnovers which does it for me.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12763 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:21 am to
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Then he's the GOAT or GOAT is pretty meaningless.


Not really. Brady’s accolades, stats and overall resume are clearly the best in history, and consensus is that he is the goat based on that. However, there are many people that acknowledge that in terms of peak playing ability, Rodgers is the best. Aaron Rodgers is the perfect qb, he has no flaws. Rodgers just wasn’t fortunate enough to play with bellichek, Moss, gronk or a top ranked defense during his career. It’s similar to the jerry rice/randy moss argument. Rice is the goat receiver, but at his best, Moss was more dangerous.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:50 am to
More man-like: Favre...
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:54 am to
Favre for stats, Rodgers for wins
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