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re: Best NBA rosters on paper with bad records?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 11:17 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 5/22/17 at 11:17 am to PrimeTime Money
great players dont need a coach to tell them how to play.
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Posted on 5/22/17 at 11:37 am to spaceranger
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you mean youre surprised steph curry isnt actually that good and cant lead a team on his own? dude is ultra overrated
That's such a stupid thing to say. How many players are good enough to carry a team right out of college? Almost none.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 11:43 am to Weagle25
Not to mention Curry's ankles were constantly breaking down.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:10 pm to gobuxgo5
quote:Do you realize beginners don't have a lot of success until they're no longer beginners?
I agree. Just weird seeing Curry and Klay on a losing team
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:30 pm to gobuxgo5
2016-17 NOLA Pelicans
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:30 pm to WaltTeevens
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Not to mention Curry's ankles were constantly breaking down.
Ironically enough, that's probably the main reason the Warriors were able to morph into a monster.
They were able to lowball Steph on his second contract, therefore having a lot of room to stack the team. If Steph was Steph in 2012ish, they probably don't have cap room to trade for guys like Iguodala.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:44 pm to Goldrush25
I still don't get how the Wolves aren't any good. They have high lottery stars in Towns, Wiggins and Rubio. Then emerging youngsters in Lavine, Muhammad, Payne, Dunn, Dieng and Jones. Add in Pekovic, Rush and Casspi. With Thibodeau at HC, that team should have won 50 games..
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:03 pm to brmark70816
quote:Because Wiggins is a below average player playing the most minutes in the NBA; he's arguably not even their third best player, and he's essentially Carmelo, but a poorer shooter, scorer, rebounder, and most terribly passer.
I still don't get how the Wolves aren't any good. They have high lottery stars in Towns, Wiggins and Rubio. Then emerging youngsters in Lavine, Muhammad, Payne, Dunn, Dieng and Jones. Add in Pekovic, Rush and Casspi. With Thibodeau at HC, that team should have won 50 games..
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:10 pm to buckeye_vol
Yeah I was on the Wiggins train a couple of years back but he's horribly inefficient. He's still pretty young so maybe he figures things out.
Great fantasy player though.
Great fantasy player though.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:16 pm to PrimeTime Money
I was dating a girl from Denver at this time, and if I recall correctly, they finished with the 3-seed that season and got absolutely thrashed by the Warriors.
That was Golden State's coming out party
That was Golden State's coming out party
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:19 pm to Goldrush25
Wiggins is at least league average. He can score, and still shows flashes-- particularly when they go big and play him at the 2. He still needs to improve his range and efficiency, but he's taking time-- at least he's coming around a good bit, though, unlike many of their higher lottery picks.
Rubio is the most overrated performer in the last 10 years. He is, categorically and statistically, the worst shooter in the history of the league with a minimum number of attempts. How bad is he? He had his best offensive season this past year, when he crested shooting 40% from the floor, if you rounded up 39.8%, in back to back months for the first time as a pro. If you don't round, he still hasn't done that.
That's why they're terrible. They can't space the floor when they play him, making everything else harder. And their backup options have not come along like they'd hope, either. He's also a boom/bust defender-- takes more risks, so ends up with decent defensive stats, but also gives up too many buckets to guys who get by him when he gambles.
Rubio is the most overrated performer in the last 10 years. He is, categorically and statistically, the worst shooter in the history of the league with a minimum number of attempts. How bad is he? He had his best offensive season this past year, when he crested shooting 40% from the floor, if you rounded up 39.8%, in back to back months for the first time as a pro. If you don't round, he still hasn't done that.
That's why they're terrible. They can't space the floor when they play him, making everything else harder. And their backup options have not come along like they'd hope, either. He's also a boom/bust defender-- takes more risks, so ends up with decent defensive stats, but also gives up too many buckets to guys who get by him when he gambles.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:20 pm to spaceranger
quote:Except for that time he won that title...that one time.
you mean youre surprised steph curry isnt actually that good and cant lead a team on his own?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:21 pm to Weagle25
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How many players are good enough to carry a team right out of college? Almost none.
i mean go down the list of the greatest players that have played and find me one that didnt carry their teams early in their careers. I know magic won finals MVP his rookie season and recently i know kawhi won finals mvp early. d-wade, cp3, lebron, kobe, shaq, garnett, duncan and arguably durant in OKC all carried their teams early on recently. Dwight howard even made a finals early
I've never seen someone who can carry their teams get hidden on defense and then taken out of the game on the final possession because hes such a bad defender. they do that with steph all the time. He didnt deserve those MVP's and wouldnt be a contender on his own team without 3 other all nba players. I'd even argue of dray, KD, klay and steph, that steph is the least valuable one
hes not even a top 3 point guard in the league- those would be russ, CP3 and john wall (Harden goes here if you call him a PG). hes basically a taller IT. garbage on defense but gets buckets
ETA- his team won 1 title. HE didnt win jack. he let andre iguadola win finals MVP even though the guy he guarded averaged 35 12 and 9. Thanks steve kerr
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:23 pm to spaceranger
quote:John Wall over Steph Curry he said.
hes not even a top 3 point guard in the league- those would be russ, CP3 and john wall (Harden goes here if you call him a PG). hes basically a taller IT. garbage on defense but gets buckets
IT on Steph's level he said.
Yikes
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:25 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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I was dating a girl from Denver at this time, and if I recall correctly, they finished with the 3-seed that season and got absolutely thrashed by the Warriors. That was Golden State's coming out party
That Denver team was so fun to watch during the regular season. Incredibly high paced. Iggy, Gallo, Chandler, Javale, Lawson, Faried. GS sent them packing though. Karl wasn't retained as coach. Ujiri took the Toronto job. Iggy moved on to GS. And the rest is history.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:27 pm to buckeye_vol
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Because Wiggins is a below average player
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:28 pm to shel311
john wall a better two way player than steph. steph a better shooter but thats it. John a better defender, passer, rebounder. IT not on steph's level but its closer than people think
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:28 pm to spaceranger
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i mean go down the list of the greatest players that have played and find me one that didnt carry their teams early in their careers. I know magic won finals MVP his rookie season and recently i know kawhi won finals mvp early. d-wade, cp3, lebron, kobe, shaq, garnett, duncan and arguably durant in OKC all carried their teams early on recently. Dwight howard even made a finals early
I've never seen someone who can carry their teams get hidden on defense and then taken out of the game on the final possession because hes such a bad defender. they do that with steph all the time. He didnt deserve those MVP's and wouldnt be a contender on his own team without 3 other all nba players. I'd even argue of dray, KD, klay and steph, that steph is the least valuable one
hes not even a top 3 point guard in the league- those would be russ, CP3 and john wall (Harden goes here if you call him a PG). hes basically a taller IT. garbage on defense but gets buckets
ETA- his team won 1 title. HE didnt win jack. he let andre iguadola win finals MVP even though the guy he guarded averaged 35 12 and 9. Thanks steve kerr
Goodness man, we get it. You don't like Steph. No need to make yourself look like an idiot. And there is no way you can believe he didn't deserve last years MVP.
30 ppg on 50/45/91 is fricking absurd
6.7 ast 5.4 reb 2.1 steals
Last year was an all time great season put on by him. Stop being an irrational hater.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:29 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
In fairness, he provides basically 1 thing, scoring. And he does that inefficiently.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:30 pm to spaceranger
quote:Stop, just stop.
john wall a better two way player than steph
Steph Curry is miles better than Wall, who isn't even a top 5 PG in the league.
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